Did you buy into the idea that Tyson bit Holyfield's ear......

[Beanflicker]

think he bit his ear because he wanted out. If he was retaliating to the headbutts then he would have gone low or headbutted back. He decided to take a chunck out of his ear and didn't get DQ'd so he went and done it again. That shows he wanted out by making sure he got the DQ.

That seems like weird logic. If he wanted the DQ he probably would have went with a low blow or headbutt (more easily detectable than an ear bite).

He bit Holyfields ear because Evander clinched him after each headbutt, it was the only thing available.

[GAME]

think he bit his ear because he wanted out. If he was retaliating to the headbutts then he would have gone low or headbutted back. He decided to take a chunck out of his ear and didn't get DQ'd so he went and done it again. That shows he wanted out by making sure he got the DQ.

Agreed. Im a Tyson fan but he wanted to get out of the fight. No doubt he waz angry but nothing was going his way. If he did it out of retaliation he woukld have done it straight after one of teh headbutts but he didnt. He tried to win in round 3 you saw how he upped his tempo but when that failed he tried to get himslef d.q'd.

I think its pretty clear when you watch the fight. When the 1st attempt didnt get the fight stopped he treied again then right on the bell he went for a 3rd attempt which showed he was going to keep trying to get out the fight until he got d'q'd

[Manos de Piedra]

think he bit his ear because he wanted out. If he was retaliating to the headbutts then he would have gone low or headbutted back. He decided to take a chunck out of his ear and didn't get DQ'd so he went and done it again. That shows he wanted out by making sure he got the DQ.

That seems like weird logic. If he wanted the DQ he probably would have went with a low blow or headbutt (more easily detectable than an ear bite).

He bit Holyfields ear because Evander clinched him after each headbutt, it was the only thing available.

But with a headbutt or low blow he would get a warning then a point then DQ, Holyfield was getting away with the headbutts so tyson may have aswell so just to make sure he went with the ear bite which was clearly more detectable because of holyfields reaction.

[johnsebastianmiran]

Tyson was truly frustrated and made a bad choice and the referee was probably sleeping when he should have straightened out Evander and at least took a point to gain control of the fight. I'm sure Tyson didn't plan it the way it turned out and there was no ketchup or mayonnaise in his corner. Tyson as far as I am concerned was and still is emotionally immature. He made a mistake and now he pays for it over and over because he was deluded with false pride and his entourage filled him with incorrect logic.

[porkypara]

Tyson quit and he knew he was going to take a beating. If he had a chance he would have butted him back or punched him low, something like biting someone he knew he would get disqualified and when he wasn't the first time he did it again to make sure he would be.

Spot on.

How may times in fights have heads clashed on purpose or not and a boxer biting another in return.

I can only think of one fight,and that when Tyson took the easy way out and went for the DQ against Holyfield.

[Master]

Tyson quit and he knew he was going to take a beating. If he had a chance he would have butted him back or punched him low, something like biting someone he knew he would get disqualified and when he wasn't the first time he did it again to make sure he would be.

Spot on.

How may times in fights have heads clashed on purpose or not and a boxer biting another in return.

I can only think of one fight,and that when Tyson took the easy way out and went for the DQ against Holyfield.

And I am a Tyson fan but he took the cowards way out like a thug and a bully.

[El Kabong]

Odd that Tyson fans of all people would bemoan any kind of roughhouse tactics ...this is the guy who would routinely jam his forearm into his opponent's throat while jostling for position on the inside.

I like Tyson, I liked the way he fought, but he was not a guy that could put up with someone that wasn't afraid of him. Holyfield's style was just all wrong for him.

[generalbulldog]

Yep I find it odd that Tyson fans are pissed off at tactics that Holyfield used, but you never see them complain about Tyson hitting on the break (Biggs fight), breaking opponents arms (Botha fight), hitting low and After the bell (Ruddock fights), giving a forearm to someone's throat (1st 10 seconds of Spinks fight).

But yet they managed to complain when Holyfield beat the living shit out of Tyson once and was about to do it again before the ear bites in the 2nd match. Boxing is a rough and nasty sport and Holyfield gave Tyson a taste of the rough house tactics Tyson loved to use. You know what they say, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."

[El Kabong]

Yep I find it odd that Tyson fans are pissed off at tactics that Holyfield used, but you never see them complain about Tyson hitting on the break (Biggs fight), breaking opponents arms (Botha fight), hitting low and After the bell (Ruddock fights), giving a forearm to someone's throat (1st 10 seconds of Spinks fight).

But yet they managed to complain when Holyfield beat the living shit out of Tyson once and was about to do it again before the ear bites in the 2nd match. Boxing is a rough and nasty sport and Holyfield gave Tyson a taste of the rough house tactics Tyson loved to use. You know what they say, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."

They are mad because it shattered his aura of invincibility (which Douglas did in 1990, see "the long count" ). Look at Tyson post Douglas, post prison people say is "Post Prime", apparently losing 1 fight destroyed him as a fighter though he actually did face better competition after prison. His training and dedication at that point really means fuck all because he was psychologically and mentally the same fighter his entire career and when it worked it worked when it didn't he blew up.

You also left out the Lou Savarese mauling too.

Just how delusional were Tyson fans? Well even after Lennox Lewis smacked him around people would consistently say "If Tyson got back together with Rooney he'd win the title again" despite all the evidence pointing in the opposite direction: Patterson, Torres, etc all the peek-a-boo pressure fighters had short primes and by their mid 20's they were finished as champions.

[Spicoli]

It's funny as hell to think for a minute that a man who tries to snap arms, bite ears and chests etc can merit logic and thought process for a repeated action that is the lowest of the low. Mike was getting his ass kicked and had no answers, simple as. Who cares why he did what he did or what drove such a man of high esteem to be forced into turmoil and dog eat dog desperation. Poor thing. Please.

[zimmerdan905]

I think he clearly went for the DQ for a variety of reasons. The ref wasn't listening to him, and he was already suffering considerably, so he took the easy way out. He'd been taking the easy way out for years already. Don't get me wrong, I LOVED Tyson in his prime, but this was not his prime.

[El Kabong]

...you guys do remember Holyfield had retired in 1994 after losing to Moorer due to his heart issue. The fight vs Tyson was part of Holyfield's comeback. So it really doesn't matter if Tyson was Prime or not, Holyfield had a bum ticker and still whipped his ass.

[Master]

There is a moment in the first fight where Tyson unleashes everything he had at round 5 I think, including some vicious body shots. After that, Tyson tries to get out of the fight by banging his head into Holyfield and other tactics but mid way into the fight he realises he cannot get out of the fight and just takes the beating of his life and did show courage and determination taking it up to round 11.

In the second fight Holyfield carries on from where he left off and there was no way Tyson was going to go through that beating again. Tyson unleashes a tremendous barrage of quality combination punches but it was more in desperation than tactics. Holyfield takes it and Tyson goes for the disqualification.

[El Kabong]

Tyson fans just need to face facts Holyfield and Lennox Lewis were bad style matchups for Tyson

[Master]

Tyson fans just need to face facts Holyfield and Lennox Lewis were bad style matchups for Tyson

Lets not go over board here, prime tyson batters both of them.