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    Default Re: I'll settle for ONE Margacheato fan to step forward and admit they were wrong.. O

    Wow man you have been busy this morning!

    Cant take anything away from Cotto. He had a gameplan that he effectively stuck to and his stamina was right on point.
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    Default Re: I'll settle for ONE Margacheato fan to step forward and admit they were wrong.. O

    I haven't seen the fight and I picked Margarito to beat Cotto in rematch based on style and both have been through the shredder a bit. News flash....I was wrong. Not quite sure what else fans have to be wrong about etc?

    It sounds as if Cotto fought a very similiar fight to first but focused on center ring and punching off side movement rather than that dreaded straight line to ropes and going square, but again, I have no clue. His punching was always effective in first fight and Margarito has always been a stone faced and balls to the wall pinata at times but full of pressure and volume. I don't think Cotto fans do him any service at all by trumping an unknown "who gotcha" with gloves. You dont know, I dont know...what we know is Tony's face fell apart this time. Something has to be said for Cottos improvments and adjustments I'd think and he zeroed in on fk'd up eye and fought smart by sounds of it. In the big picture and on a whole I am cool with Cotto getting his revenge and think he has more options and gears than a Margarito in regards to future matches and remains more fresh.

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    Default Re: I'll settle for ONE Margacheato fan to step forward and admit they were wrong.. O

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I haven't seen the fight and I picked Margarito to beat Cotto in rematch based on style and both have been through the shredder a bit. News flash....I was wrong. Not quite sure what else fans have to be wrong about etc?

    It sounds as if Cotto fought a very similiar fight to first but focused on center ring and punching off side movement rather than that dreaded straight line to ropes and going square, but again, I have no clue. His punching was always effective in first fight and Margarito has always been a stone faced and balls to the wall pinata at times but full of pressure and volume. I don't think Cotto fans do him any service at all by trumping an unknown "who gotcha" with gloves. You dont know, I dont know...what we know is Tony's face fell apart this time. Something has to be said for Cottos improvments and adjustments I'd think and he zeroed in on fk'd up eye and fought smart by sounds of it. In the big picture and on a whole I am cool with Cotto getting his revenge and think he has more options and gears than a Margarito in regards to future matches and remains more fresh.
    This is a good post and bang on imo. Cotto didn't need to zero in on the eye, it wasn't going to hold up one way or another. I also don't think it was a determining factor though in that Cotto was still fresher than Margarito by the 10th and didn't take the same kind of punishment through the early rounds that he did the first time. From reading the fight thread in here people seemed to see it panning out the same way because Cotto used the same tactics.. Fact is Margarito wasn't getting to him at all in most of the early rounds though.

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    Default Re: I'll settle for ONE Margacheato fan to step forward and admit they were wrong.. O

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Sorry, wrong about what? Cotto ran more in this fight than he did the last, so what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Onix View Post
    Wow man you have been busy this morning!

    Cant take anything away from Cotto. He had a gameplan that he effectively stuck to and his stamina was right on point.

    Good to see you here, Onix. I had a feeling you'd show up. Now if anyone can tell me where VD is........


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    Default Re: I'll settle for ONE Margacheato fan to step forward and admit they were wrong.. O

    I'm not a Margarito fan, but I did pick him to win and stop Cotto like he did in the first.

    I was wrong. His eye combined with Cotto making some small refinements lead to a near shutout for Cotto.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I'm not a Margarito fan, but I did pick him to win and stop Cotto like he did in the first.

    I was wrong. His eye combined with Cotto making some small refinements lead to a near shutout for Cotto.

    I think Margarito was actually favored in some circles before the fight. Fighting at 154 probably had a lot to do with, combined with Margarito's tremendous chin, and other factors in his favor. No shame in picking wrong.... I myself was plenty nervous about those things going into the fight.

    I would say, however, that Cotto's adjustments were considerable. First, his stamina was better than in some past fights. I credit the new Cuban trainer for that. Second, Cotto showed some lateral movement that had been missing from recent fights. Again, I think the trainer did a marvelous job in preparing Cotto.

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    Default Re: I'll settle for ONE Margacheato fan to step forward and admit they were wrong.. O

    I'm not even a Margarito fan, but I though he was going to knock out Cotto again.

    Even during the fight, I thought things were playing out just as they had the first time.

    Luckily, I was wrong. It was great to see a fighter I genuinely respect get revenge over one of the biggest villains in a sport filled with criminals.

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    Default Re: I'll settle for ONE Margacheato fan to step forward and admit they were wrong.. O

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I'm not a Margarito fan, but I did pick him to win and stop Cotto like he did in the first.

    I was wrong. His eye combined with Cotto making some small refinements lead to a near shutout for Cotto.

    I think Margarito was actually favored in some circles before the fight. Fighting at 154 probably had a lot to do with, combined with Margarito's tremendous chin, and other factors in his favor. No shame in picking wrong.... I myself was plenty nervous about those things going into the fight.

    I would say, however, that Cotto's adjustments were considerable. First, his stamina was better than in some past fights. I credit the new Cuban trainer for that. Second, Cotto showed some lateral movement that had been missing from recent fights. Again, I think the trainer did a marvelous job in preparing Cotto.
    He also showed a good right hand. I haven't seen Cotto that effective with a straight right hand since the Mosley fight.

    Only thing about Cotto that disappointed me was the lack of body punching. I thought he would of watched what Mosley and Pacquiao were able to do when they worked Margarito's body.

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    Default Re: I'll settle for ONE Margacheato fan to step forward and admit they were wrong.. O

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I'm not a Margarito fan, but I did pick him to win and stop Cotto like he did in the first.

    I was wrong. His eye combined with Cotto making some small refinements lead to a near shutout for Cotto.

    I think Margarito was actually favored in some circles before the fight. Fighting at 154 probably had a lot to do with, combined with Margarito's tremendous chin, and other factors in his favor. No shame in picking wrong.... I myself was plenty nervous about those things going into the fight.

    I would say, however, that Cotto's adjustments were considerable. First, his stamina was better than in some past fights. I credit the new Cuban trainer for that. Second, Cotto showed some lateral movement that had been missing from recent fights. Again, I think the trainer did a marvelous job in preparing Cotto.
    He also showed a good right hand. I haven't seen Cotto that effective with a straight right hand since the Mosley fight.

    Only thing about Cotto that disappointed me was the lack of body punching. I thought he would of watched what Mosley and Pacquiao were able to do when they worked Margarito's body.
    fully agree on all points, IMO this has been Cotto's best showing since the Mosley fight, he just all around looked rejuvenated, most of his old form back, as you said more use of the straight right which packs plenty power (watch the Torres fight), but he didn't go to the body as much, it wasn't until he had the first 7 in the bag and that he started trading that he started to mix in the left under then back up top, if he would have stepped to his right while slipping off the ropes and turning Margarito process he would have been able to bang that drum all night, either way i'm just thrilled that he looked as great as he did last night really should knock off some of that he's finished or shot bullshit cause he didn't punch, move, or give any indication of a shot fighter last night

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