Bilbo you have made it clear in the original "Do you ever doubt God's Existence thread?"exactly where you stand.

"I never doubt his existence at all.I used to be an atheist until I discovered Richard Dawkins and Carl Sagan. They converted me to Christianity and now I cannot comprehend how people cannot believe

The universe is ordered and structured. Outside of the philosophical beliefs of evolutionary humanism random chance and organisation of knowledge and material has never been observed to occur.

That a creation needs a creator is the conclusion of simple but cast iron logic that has never been contradicted in the history of humankind.

Those arguing for a universe from nothing believe in something that for which there has never been a shred of evidence, whereas those who believe a complicated design needs an intelligent designer can look to every single structure ever made."

Therefore you can not pretend that you are referring to an historical Jesus, you are speaking about the exact same, Jesus as described in the Gospels, that Mars , Myself and many other open minded, logical, questioning people have suggested may well be an amalgam, a composite of various messianic like figures claiming divinity at the time.

Your belief that
"The Bible, whether you believe its claims or not is one of the most important historical documents of the ancient world" is frankly just not true it has been proved to be wildly inaccurate again and again, even in ascertaining the belief system of the people it refers to as Israelites. Your use of phrases like "beyond any doubt"reveal you arrogance and inability to accept reason, however well made the argument. Your belligerence reveals your ignorance.

Your moving from a position of atheism to that of a believer is a clear example of you eschewing logic in favour of faith, a position you are more than entitled to take. The issue I have with you, is your assumption that i dismiss your beliefs "with a wave of the hand" because it suits me emotionally to do so. I arrived at the place I am now, both intellectually and philosophically, after many years of fervent searching and belief, exploring many faiths and researching their historical development. It has been a painful journey that has cost me massively in both emotional and physical sacrifices, and so I do not take kindly to you assertions of ignorance and retardation. You say

"The names that Mars quoted are just names he grabbed from silly websites that spout false, spurious and outated nonense, like you are doing."

and then go on to use the Bible like it is an authentic Historical document. You are clearly speaking from a point of extreme prejudice, and have no idea how to construct a rational argument. It is becoming increasingly futile to try and have a conversation with someone putting their fingers in their ears, and going "la la la". So I give up, Jesus Christ the divine, as described in the Gospels was obviously a real historic figure, along with his virgin birth, resurrection to heaven and many miracles.