Re: Do you ever doubt God's existence?

[Mars_ax]

"The names that Mars quoted are just names he grabbed from silly websites that spout false, spurious and outated nonense, like you are doing."

and then go on to use the Bible like it is an authentic Historical document. You are clearly speaking from a point of extreme prejudice, and have no idea how to construct a rational argument. It is becoming increasingly futile to try and have a conversation with someone putting their fingers in their ears, and going "la la la". So I give up, Jesus Christ the divine, as described in the Gospels was obviously a real historic figure, along with his virgin birth, resurrection to heaven and many miracles.

You don't get anywhere trying to debate or reason with condescending, fundamentalist christian bigots like Bilbo, they're absolutists who've already bought it all, hook, line and sinker.

Whether a man named Jesus actually existed or not, can't be proven one way or the other. One thing that's certain, there's a total lack of secular "historical" evidence confirming what was written about him in the gospels. Because of this, even if you removed the supernatual events, and divinity et al, from the New Testament, it would still have to be considered a fabrication and/or work of fiction.

That's not to say that the gospels aren't a marvelous, educational, collection of religious literature. (but terminally boring)

cheers Beanz, BTW, good job of owning Bilbo.

[Kev]

"The names that Mars quoted are just names he grabbed from silly websites that spout false, spurious and outated nonense, like you are doing."

and then go on to use the Bible like it is an authentic Historical document. You are clearly speaking from a point of extreme prejudice, and have no idea how to construct a rational argument. It is becoming increasingly futile to try and have a conversation with someone putting their fingers in their ears, and going "la la la". So I give up, Jesus Christ the divine, as described in the Gospels was obviously a real historic figure, along with his virgin birth, resurrection to heaven and many miracles.

You don't get anywhere trying to debate or reason with condescending, fundamentalist christian bigots like Bilbo, they're absolutists who've already bought it all, hook, line and sinker.

Whether a man named Jesus actually existed or not, can't be proven one way or the other. One thing that's certain, there's a total lack of secular "historical" evidence confirming what was written about him in the gospels. Because of this, even if you removed the supernatual events, and divinity et al, from the New Testament, it would still have to be considered a fabrication and/or work of fiction.

That's not to say that the gospels aren't a marvelous, educational, collection of religious literature. (but terminally boring)

cheers Beanz, BTW, good job of owning Bilbo.

Whether a man named Jesus actually existed or not, can't be proven one way or the other.

Yes, it can. He existed. There is not a single active scholar in the world who seriously contests this. Please point me to any mainstream history book published in the last 100 years that says he was a made up, fictional character.

One thing that's certain, there's a total lack of secular "historical" evidence confirming what was written about him in the gospels.

Huh? You want 'secular' evidence confirming that he healed the sick, walked on water, rasied people from the dead and was the Son of God? I'll leave you to work out the irony of this.

cheers Beanz, BTW, good job of owning Bilbo.

haha, the only thing you were correct about is that I am condescending.