Quote Originally Posted by stebs View Post
How can anyone evaluate Wards greatness off of a fight like this.

Carl Froch regardless of what the scorecards say is not that good of a fighter and his super six performances show this. Yes he made it to the final somehow.

Froch was losing to Taylor in his first super six fight and got lucky when Taylor tired and ended up with the win by TKO, he lost to Andre Dirrell in his second only to get a gift decision, he lost to Mikkel Kessler. He won against an old weight drained light heavy Glen Johnson. The only fight he won decisively was against Abraham who was a blown up middle who dosen't throw punches.

If you count Dirrell he lost more then anyone in the super six and was most likely the least talented. The only thing going for him is his heart and stamina which is enough only some of the time.

Andre Ward is the best Super middle out there and when he beats up Bute everyone will agree. But he is from from a great at this point in his career.

I don't know why Bute has such good standing either, he's been spoon fed opponents and got knocked out in the process, he was knocked out and he got the Win, not many can do that, maybe that's why he's on some pedestal.

Ward beats him Easy.
I believe the Taylor fight against Froch came before the Super Six.

Anyways . . .

How do you see Ward against . . .
Anthony Dirrell(#1 contender)
Andre Dirrell(we got cheated out of that fight)
Bute(to be the best, you have to beat the best and Bute was the best before the Super Six)
Hopkins(the old vet)