Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
I think it's funny that people think butte is great for beating no one, yet ward is overrated for beating everyone. Dude has the belts, the fancy lil super six cup and people can still dig and find something negative to say about the guy. Amazing. Instead of this crying about ward being overrated, not great, boring how about use that energy to find a way to beat the guy. He mauls and fouls his way to a win over and over we all know it's coming but fighters still go in there loose just to complain about it. If ward is overrated , then i hate to see the opinion of the rest of the division. They must be horrible. Im not a ward fan hell i acutally think without the hugging at the end of the fight froch would have won, but all the negative about a guy none of these guys can beat is funny
No one is annointing Bute as the next master boxer. No one has Bute in their top 5 p4p. Bute isn't ranked by most people including yourself. How then could he be overrated?

For beating Froch and Kessler, Ward has emerged as the next great star of boxing in many commentators minds. My point is: maybe that is true, but it depends on how good Froch and Kessler really are. First off, they're clearly quality level boxers, but are wins over them enough to catapult Ward to top 5 p4p status?

I've always thought Kessler was overrated (he's clearly good though don't get me wrong) and became famous because of the first three rounds of the Calzaghe fight. Froch has a great win over Pascal, but the Dirrell fight was horrible and Taylor had already been dethroned when Froch faced him. If Froch beats Bute, then you have a solid point. No debate. If Bute steamrolls through Froch, then we don't really know how good Ward is yet, right? Until Froch goes on to get other big wins over good foes etc. Froch lost to Kessler before fighting Ward even though I thought it was a tight match.

This will be decided in the next few years. To be fair, wins over Froch and Kessler should get you something. While neither was a p4p fighter when Ward beat them, they are both quality boxers. Usually, you have to beat a p4p fighter to get into the top 5 p4p or move around in weight. Ward hasn't moved around in weight either. Ward should probably be in the top ten for those wins. No doubt. So, maybe it's really just a few spots here or there I'm talking about...