Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

[LobowolfXXX]

I say Lacy in terms of overhyped and Ward to me is overrated. I don't see a particularly great fighter at all. The American's need their name SMW and they have him, but Calzaghe eats those for breakfast.

Conversely, the Brits/Europeans need their name SMW and they have him, but Ward eats those for breakfast...

Calzaghe's resume is very respectable and he never lost? Gee, who else does that sound like?

[Gandalf]

I say Lacy in terms of overhyped and Ward to me is overrated. I don't see a particularly great fighter at all. The American's need their name SMW and they have him, but Calzaghe eats those for breakfast.

Conversely, the Brits/Europeans need their name SMW and they have him, but Ward eats those for breakfast...

Calzaghe's resume is very respectable and he never lost? Gee, who else does that sound like?

Ward has beaten Froch who Calzaghe would NEVER have lost a round against. Froch throwing 40 punches a round, slowly and missing most or Calzaghe and his 100 punch buzzsaw combinations from all kinds of awkward angles. It's Calzaghe easily.

Calzaghe beat a prime Kessler, unbeaten and full of confidence and took him to school with sublime boxing. No cheating, no spoiling, just brilliant showmanship and class. Ward couldn't do it without going all John Ruiz and Billy Goat Gruff.

Calzaghe is a different league to someone like Ward. Ward may be the S.O.G, but Calzaghe is God himself. It is father and son and the son would get a spanking. Ward just couldn't keep up and would be befuddled by the different things Calzaghe can do. All Ward can do is try to make it ugly, but that wouldn't be very Christian.

[Dark Lord Al]

I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
Isnt a fool wise after the event.

[Gandalf]

I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
Isnt a fool wise after the event.

Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.

[Dark Lord Al]

I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
Isnt a fool wise after the event.

Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.

You dont think Ward has fought better opposition than Calzaghe at the same stage of their respective careers ?

[Gandalf]

I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
Isnt a fool wise after the event.

Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.

You dont think Ward has fought better opposition than Calzaghe at the same stage of their respective careers ?

Calzaghe - Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Veit, Sheika

Ward - Green, Abraham, Froch, Kessler, Miranda

There isn't all that much in it. Eubank was faded, so was Kessler. People are going to remember Green and Miranda just as much as they do Sheika and Woodhall. Abraham and Veit are your token popular in Germany fighters. Reid was a good fighter though never going to go down as a great, a bit like Froch who only beat a well faded Reid.

The only difference was Calzaghe was busier and had more filler.

[Dark Lord Al]

I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
Isnt a fool wise after the event.

Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.

You dont think Ward has fought better opposition than Calzaghe at the same stage of their respective careers ?

Calzaghe - Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Veit, Sheika

Ward - Green, Abraham, Froch, Kessler, Miranda

There isn't all that much in it. Eubank was faded, so was Kessler. People are going to remember Green and Miranda just as much as they do Sheika and Woodhall. Abraham and Veit are your token popular in Germany fighters. Reid was a good fighter though never going to go down as a great, a bit like Froch who only beat a well faded Reid.

The only difference was Calzaghe was busier and had more filler.

You mean had alot of defences against club fighters ?

Sheika had lost to ( 28 -44 -7 ) Tony Booth for fucks sake.

[Rantcatrat]

I won't read anything by Scott Gilfoid.

[terrorsid]

MR Druggy calaghe knew when to retire!!!
he not active sooooo how is he relevant

He's beatable when you think about it, RIGHT?
But what happens when you fight him
not what people are saying

[FinitoElDinamita]

I agree with Miles 100% on this thread..

Ward is not on Calzaghe's level..

He's more like a blend of John Ruiz, Hopkins, and Ricky Hatton...

I dont know how anyone could compare him to Roy Jones... lmfao really??

Roy and Ward are like night and day.. They have nothing in common except for the fact that Ward did try to emulate Roy's style very early in his career.. We're talking the days when he got rocked by Darnell Boone.. lol

He's better off with his new wrestling style though cuz it works real well.. He's like the new Hopkins in a sense that he's an illusionist who makes people believe he's a better fighter than he really is..

[BIG H]

The current version of Ward vs the 2007 version of Calzaghe = 50/50 fight imo.

[Rantcatrat]

I agree with Miles 100% on this thread..

Ward is not on Calzaghe's level..

He's more like a blend of John Ruiz, Hopkins, and Ricky Hatton...

I dont know how anyone could compare him to Roy Jones... lmfao really??

Roy and Ward are like night and day.. They have nothing in common except for the fact that Ward did try to emulate Roy's style very early in his career.. We're talking the days when he got rocked by Darnell Boone.. lol

He's better off with his new wrestling style though cuz it works real well.. He's like the new Hopkins in a sense that he's an illusionist who makes people believe he's a better fighter than he really is..

This is a good post although I'll wait to see with how good Ward can get. He may perfect his style and at that point he could be very tough to beat.

[Dia bando]

Calzaghe to fast for Ward ,have you seen anybody out box Joe no,
I no one thing Ward, could not out box him, as for Froch, he is game
but is one-dimensional to me a bit of a plodder.

[Dark Lord Al]

Calzaghe to fast for Ward ,have you seen anybody out box Joe no,
I no one thing Ward, could not out box him, as for Froch, he is game
but is one-dimensional to me a bit of a plodder.

Who has come close to outboxing Ward ?