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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

    Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
    Isnt a fool wise after the event.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

    Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
    Isnt a fool wise after the event.
    Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

    Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
    Isnt a fool wise after the event.
    Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.
    You dont think Ward has fought better opposition than Calzaghe at the same stage of their respective careers ?

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

    Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
    Isnt a fool wise after the event.
    Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.
    You dont think Ward has fought better opposition than Calzaghe at the same stage of their respective careers ?
    Calzaghe - Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Veit, Sheika

    Ward - Green, Abraham, Froch, Kessler, Miranda

    There isn't all that much in it. Eubank was faded, so was Kessler. People are going to remember Green and Miranda just as much as they do Sheika and Woodhall. Abraham and Veit are your token popular in Germany fighters. Reid was a good fighter though never going to go down as a great, a bit like Froch who only beat a well faded Reid.

    The only difference was Calzaghe was busier and had more filler.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
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    I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

    Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
    Isnt a fool wise after the event.
    Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.
    You dont think Ward has fought better opposition than Calzaghe at the same stage of their respective careers ?
    Calzaghe - Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Veit, Sheika

    Ward - Green, Abraham, Froch, Kessler, Miranda

    There isn't all that much in it. Eubank was faded, so was Kessler. People are going to remember Green and Miranda just as much as they do Sheika and Woodhall. Abraham and Veit are your token popular in Germany fighters. Reid was a good fighter though never going to go down as a great, a bit like Froch who only beat a well faded Reid.

    The only difference was Calzaghe was busier and had more filler.
    You mean had alot of defences against club fighters ?

    Sheika had lost to ( 28 -44 -7 ) Tony Booth for fucks sake.
    Last edited by Dark Lord Al; 12-21-2011 at 02:38 PM.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

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    I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

    Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
    Isnt a fool wise after the event.
    Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.
    You dont think Ward has fought better opposition than Calzaghe at the same stage of their respective careers ?
    Calzaghe - Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Veit, Sheika

    Ward - Green, Abraham, Froch, Kessler, Miranda

    There isn't all that much in it. Eubank was faded, so was Kessler. People are going to remember Green and Miranda just as much as they do Sheika and Woodhall. Abraham and Veit are your token popular in Germany fighters. Reid was a good fighter though never going to go down as a great, a bit like Froch who only beat a well faded Reid.

    The only difference was Calzaghe was busier and had more filler.
    You mean had alot of defences against club fighters ?

    Sheika had lost to Tony Booth for fucks sake.
    Yet beaten Glen Johnson.
    3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Ward potentially might end up with a better resume than Calzaghe, but anything more right now is just premature and I don't think he will be able to last the course. Let me know if Ward is still around and unbeaten at 36. It is just not going to happen.

    To do more than Calzaghe means defending his titles year in year out and then taking on LHW. He has a lot more to do and I have a hard time seeing it.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

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    I think the opinion was that if Froch won the super six, his legacy would be better than that of Calzaghe. This was a thread we discussed in depth , well didnt Ward win the super six ?

    Ward beat a much better opposition than Calzaghe , how can Mr Play it safe find fault with Ward.
    Isnt a fool wise after the event.
    Who though? I really don't see anyone on Ward's resume that is better than the best fighters on Calzaghe's resume. It doesn't make any sense.
    You dont think Ward has fought better opposition than Calzaghe at the same stage of their respective careers ?
    Calzaghe - Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Veit, Sheika

    Ward - Green, Abraham, Froch, Kessler, Miranda

    There isn't all that much in it. Eubank was faded, so was Kessler. People are going to remember Green and Miranda just as much as they do Sheika and Woodhall. Abraham and Veit are your token popular in Germany fighters. Reid was a good fighter though never going to go down as a great, a bit like Froch who only beat a well faded Reid.

    The only difference was Calzaghe was busier and had more filler.
    You mean had alot of defences against club fighters ?

    Sheika had lost to Tony Booth for fucks sake.
    Yet beaten Glen Johnson.
    The Glen Johnson, Calzaghe was deadly afraid to face.

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