Yes I thought he beat dirrell, who reckons froch could win a rematch??Originally Posted by Gandalf
I reckon he could whereas I don't think Kessler would
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Yes I thought he beat dirrell, who reckons froch could win a rematch??
I reckon he could whereas I don't think Kessler would
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Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable
I have no objection to either Froch or Kessler having a Ward rematch. Kesslers fight was a particular mess and no way was that him at optimum level. Froch could possibly make some alterations.Yes I thought he beat dirrell, who reckons froch could win a rematch??
I reckon he could whereas I don't think Kessler would
I really wouldn't mind seeing them.
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Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable
Andre Ward beats Carl Froch and Mikkell Kessler again. I don't believe Froch can handle Ward's speed. Froch is slick, but he just isn't athletic enough to compete with Ward. Kessler is a great basic fighter. Ward has too many wrinkles up his sleeve for Kessler. The more intriguing match ups for Ward are against Bute and Andre Dirrell because the speed gap and the craftiness gap aren't as wide. If Ward wanted to go for gold and legacy, the next fight would be Bute so he could end any conversation about who is the best at 168. Instead, in his own words, "So I don't have to go to Lucian Bute right now" and "This is a sport, but we also use our brains for business, and we'll sit down and make a solid business decision." Andre Ward-Lucian Bute bout looks unlikely for time being - ESPN
The other route would be to face his mandatory, Anthony Dirrell, and build a story for an end of 2012 fight with Andre Dirrell assuming Andre looks good on 12/30.
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Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable
honestly I think Froch does still have a chance against Ward, I dont think ward wins everytime
Ward won the fight clearly but everyone is bumming him a little too much
he won the first four and then four out of the last 8
if the fight had of gone on another 3, looking at the scores from the judges, Froch would more than likely have won
i know that sounds daft, who fights for 15 rounds anymore, but Ward's stamina is questionable, he has faded in a number of fights
one day someone will get to him late
he won the super six as the best fighter in the competition no doubt. But fighting every fight in his home country, also fighting green and AA (who had come off a significant loss) along the way, and avoiding a fight against Dirrell, compare that to how froch got to the final
and where the final was held
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Cant believe what I'm hearing in this thread...if he scored a controversial decision against old Hopkins who people are comparing Ward to..what the fuck you think prime Ward does to him??
Calzaghe could adjust well i'll give him that..but Ward barely lost a round in the entire Super 6!
Come on its Calzaghe ffs..if anyone gets "over rated" in boxing its this pussy.
Ward would be way too smart for this fool..he will execute on Calzaghe without panicking..he fades in the last 2 rounds? So what if he's up 10 rounds??
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Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable
Waste of time talking about it now calzaghe is retired. I would like to see hjm fight bute to decide who really is number one at the devision. Then fight Martinez. Martinez is always going on about fighting the best and if Ward beats Bute he is the best in that devision. So that is the dream match up I would like to see.
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Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable
Hopkins was an easy win for Calzaghe. It was made ugly by Hopkins spoiling, but it was decisive and convincing. Calzaghe strolled on down to the finish from the 4th onwards. An opening blip, a little recalculation and then boom, Hopkins was nullified.
Ward is no Hopkins either. There are stylistic similarities, but also serious questions about Ward. He doesn't have stamina and would be blowing out of his bottom by the half way mark. As if Ward is going to put Calzaghe down or keep up with him. It is laughable.
Calzaghe is a pussy? He isn't the one trying to make beautiful manlove with his opponents every fight or rub his face in another man's face. He's horrible to watch, whilst Calzaghe in his pomp was exciting and full of non-spoiling action.
Ward would never be up 10 rounds against Calzaghe. Who on this earth has ever taken more than 4 rounds off of Calzaghe? A slow plodder like Froch was able to take 3 against Ward, does anyone think Calzaghe would tire against Froch or give rounds away. It is a ludicrous notion.
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Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable
Admittedly there was a 'let's shag Hopkins' moment, but that was taunting. Ward does it because grappling is all he has, he couldn't outbox Calzaghe as he would be outworked, it would be back to the old 'let's have a hug and I will hit you on the break'. Calzaghe is quicker and would let his hands go with far more confidence than Ward who gets tired and holds and knows he cannot let the chin up for too long.
It's a mismatch really. Ward isn't terribly good and would get busted up over the long haul as Calzaghe punishes his opponents and doesn't stop them. What's Ward realistically going to do against Calzaghe? He has fought nobody like the guy, Calzaghe has already shown he can outwork dirty spoilers.
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Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable
Ward was good in the super six but barely lost a round is a bit much
He lost 4+ to froch, more to aa than either froch or dirrell did
He also fought green who noone lost a round to
Yes he won most of the rounds against kes (with his head)
Hes good mate but this is another example of someone over egging it
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