Hearn says showtime rejects Froch - Bute...

[Rantcatrat]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

The whole point about rematch as I understand it is that Froch wants a fight in Nottingham. Froch is hedging against the possibility that something like what happened in the Peterson v. Khan fight happens in Montreal. Moreover, Froch deserves a fight in Notthingham as he has been fighting on the road for most of the last three years.

To suggest, however, that Bute isn't in the driver's seat here in terms of negotations is incorrect. Bute is undefeated, has a belt, and fills stadiums in Montreal. Bute also has looked better against common opposition. Yet, Froch is the best fight available for Bute right now if Ward won't fight him. Froch should take his fair share of the pot--No doubt about it.

[Fenster]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

The whole point about rematch as I understand it is that Froch wants a fight in Nottingham. Froch is hedging against the possibility that something like what happened in the Peterson v. Khan fight happens in Montreal. Moreover, Froch deserves a fight in Notthingham as he has been fighting on the road for most of the last three years.

To suggest, however, that Bute isn't in the driver's seat here in terms of negotations is incorrect. Bute is undefeated, has a belt, and fills stadiums in Montreal. Bute also has looked better against common opposition. Yet, Froch is the best fight available for Bute right now if Ward won't fight him. Froch should take his fair share of the pot--No doubt about it.

Well there's ZERO point in Froch facing Bute then. Froch hasn't fought in England for over two years. He easily has the profile now to fill a "stadium." If he wins an alphabet next year that puts him on a par with Bute and will obviously get a much better deal.

How has Bute done better against common opposition?

Froch KO'd Tatevosyan. Bute beat him on PTS.
Froch KO'd Magee. Bute KO'd Magee.
Froch beat Johnson on PTS. Bute beat Johnson on PTS.

Looks like Froch rates higher due to the Tatevosyan KO

[Rantcatrat]

The reason Froch-Bute wont happen is the rematch deal. If Bute beats Froch he's not leaving Canada in a million years to rematch him in England. That's just nonsense.

Eff Bute.

Froch has no title. Why the fuck does he need a rematch clause? I understand Bute needing one. He is the champion. For the fight to not happen cuz of Froch needing a rematch clause is a straight bitch move on Froch's part. The challenger needs a rematch clause. Come the fuck on with that bullshit. That's gotta be one of the most moronic demands by a challenger ever. So if Bute were to stop Froch early or embarrasses him over 12 he should still be obligated to fight him again? Fuck all that.

How the fuck can anyone think Froch is making a "bitch move" for asking for a rematch option? That is pathetic.

Froch's last four fights have been against the current supermiddleweight champion, no.2, no. 8 and no.9. He was the AWAY fighter in all four bouts.

Not only is Bute's opposition WAY below Froch's he's never been the AWAY fighter in his life.

What serious boxing fan cares about Bute's shitty alphabet title? Froch has TWICE held the WBC title in the time Bute has held the IBF. Froch could have simply done what Bute did - stay at home defending against c-level opposition (and Froch leftovers). To cite Bute's "title" as some sort of superiority over Froch is ridiculous.

Bute should be BEGGING to fight Froch to prove he can mix it at the top.

(p.s - they stated the rematch would be scrapped if there's a KO or lopsided decision )

The whole point about rematch as I understand it is that Froch wants a fight in Nottingham. Froch is hedging against the possibility that something like what happened in the Peterson v. Khan fight happens in Montreal. Moreover, Froch deserves a fight in Notthingham as he has been fighting on the road for most of the last three years.

To suggest, however, that Bute isn't in the driver's seat here in terms of negotations is incorrect. Bute is undefeated, has a belt, and fills stadiums in Montreal. Bute also has looked better against common opposition. Yet, Froch is the best fight available for Bute right now if Ward won't fight him. Froch should take his fair share of the pot--No doubt about it.

Well there's ZERO point in Froch facing Bute then. Froch hasn't fought in England for over two years. He easily has the profile now to fill a "stadium." If he wins an alphabet next year that puts him on a par with Bute and will obviously get a much better deal.

How has Bute done better against common opposition?

Froch KO'd Tatevosyan. Bute beat him on PTS.
Froch KO'd Magee. Bute KO'd Magee.
Froch beat Johnson on PTS. Bute beat Johnson on PTS.

Looks like Froch rates higher due to the Tatevosyan KO

You provocative son of a gun. Listen, you and I both know, whether you choose to acknowledge it is a different question, but we both know that Bute beat Johnson and Magee better than Froch. What I'll give you is that Froch faced them first. Frequently it is forgotten that Bute also beat Bika soundly.