Bernard Hopkins vs Joe Calzaghe I and result of a hypothetical rematch

[shza]

Hopkins punch output was atrocious. That is obvious to anyone and when you are outlanded as much as he was then the fight was no way close. Hopkins was outlanded so badly that he needed to fake lowblows just to get through it.

"Ooh but Hopkins landed 2 clean shots!". Sure, but Calzaghe tapped him 20 times. That is the round to Calzaghe.

This is why there is no point in even engaging in these arguments with the Calzaghe nuthuggers. Refusing even to acknowledge that a *split decision* "win" in which he was the only one who went down was at a minimum a close fight -- ridiculous.

[Dia bando]

That's what I like a bit of Calzaghe baiting , but is it working no Hopkins talking to Joe,
Hopkins let's fight one more time Joe, OK 60 40 Hopkins not a fucking Word all you
Hopkins fan's your man's full of

[p4pking]

It was an extremely close fight, and quite a shit one imo. I don't like Calzaghes as a fighter, the fact that Hopkins simply couldn't fight at his pace forced him to spoil endlessly and when I went to rewatch it a while back I just couldn't be bothered after a while. I don't think there's really even all that much to look for, neither guy was doing anything especially effective it just depends which style you find more aesthetically pleasing in the first place.

[erics44]

It was an extremely close fight, and quite a shit one imo. I don't like Calzaghes as a fighter, the fact that Hopkins simply couldn't fight at his pace forced him to spoil endlessly and when I went to rewatch it a while back I just couldn't be bothered after a while. I don't think there's really even all that much to look for, neither guy was doing anything especially effective it just depends which style you find more aesthetically pleasing in the first place.

Not really, this one was down to who landed vastly more punches

[p4pking]

It was an extremely close fight, and quite a shit one imo. I don't like Calzaghes as a fighter, the fact that Hopkins simply couldn't fight at his pace forced him to spoil endlessly and when I went to rewatch it a while back I just couldn't be bothered after a while. I don't think there's really even all that much to look for, neither guy was doing anything especially effective it just depends which style you find more aesthetically pleasing in the first place.

Not really, this one was down to who landed vastly more punches

Oh really? Thanks. Imo Calzaghe didn't land a single punch that was on par with what Hopkins did connect with(although so little), which is what makes this fight shit to watch for me.

[erics44]

It was an extremely close fight, and quite a shit one imo. I don't like Calzaghes as a fighter, the fact that Hopkins simply couldn't fight at his pace forced him to spoil endlessly and when I went to rewatch it a while back I just couldn't be bothered after a while. I don't think there's really even all that much to look for, neither guy was doing anything especially effective it just depends which style you find more aesthetically pleasing in the first place.

Not really, this one was down to who landed vastly more punches

Oh really? Thanks. Imo Calzaghe didn't land a single punch that was on par with what Hopkins did connect with(although so little), which is what makes this fight shit to watch for me.

you are right, hopkins easily landed the best 5 punches of the fight by a long long way

calzaghe won tho because he landed the next best umpteen

[p4pking]

It was an extremely close fight, and quite a shit one imo. I don't like Calzaghes as a fighter, the fact that Hopkins simply couldn't fight at his pace forced him to spoil endlessly and when I went to rewatch it a while back I just couldn't be bothered after a while. I don't think there's really even all that much to look for, neither guy was doing anything especially effective it just depends which style you find more aesthetically pleasing in the first place.

Not really, this one was down to who landed vastly more punches

Oh really? Thanks. Imo Calzaghe didn't land a single punch that was on par with what Hopkins did connect with(although so little), which is what makes this fight shit to watch for me.

you are right, hopkins easily landed the best 5 punches of the fight by a long long way

calzaghe won tho because he landed the next best umpteen

Ok? Perfectly valid opinion to hold, I just don't think there were really a "next best umpteen". Calzaghe just flurried at nothing and tried to shoeshine Hopkins for much of the fight imo, and had enough success doing so in many rounds but easily lost others in which Hopkins landed real punches. The fight never really took off partly because the two are so utterly opposite in their approach to boxing. Hopkins has textbook punching form and body control but obviously is extremely conservative in his output and can't fight 12 hard rounds. Calzaghe was the antithesis of this really and operated almost entirely on fitness and athletecism. Sometimes such a clash of styles makes for a great fight, this was not one of those nights and I do put more blame on Hopkins for spoiling, for whatever that's worth.

[Violent Demise]

It was an extremely close fight, and quite a shit one imo. I don't like Calzaghes as a fighter, the fact that Hopkins simply couldn't fight at his pace forced him to spoil endlessly and when I went to rewatch it a while back I just couldn't be bothered after a while. I don't think there's really even all that much to look for, neither guy was doing anything especially effective it just depends which style you find more aesthetically pleasing in the first place.

Not really, this one was down to who landed vastly more punches

Thank you. Might be the smartest thing you ever said. It does indeed come down to who landed more punches. Punches. Not slaps. It's pathetic how so many of y'all claim to know the sport of boxing but fail to realize that Calzaghe's open hand slaps are not legal, scoring blows.

[erics44]

It was an extremely close fight, and quite a shit one imo. I don't like Calzaghes as a fighter, the fact that Hopkins simply couldn't fight at his pace forced him to spoil endlessly and when I went to rewatch it a while back I just couldn't be bothered after a while. I don't think there's really even all that much to look for, neither guy was doing anything especially effective it just depends which style you find more aesthetically pleasing in the first place.

Not really, this one was down to who landed vastly more punches

Thank you. Might be the smartest thing you ever said. It does indeed come down to who landed more punches. Punches. Not slaps. It's pathetic how so many of y'all claim to know the sport of boxing but fail to realize that Calzaghe's open hand slaps are not legal, scoring blows.

like i said before VD, your opinion on this fight is no longer reliable soz

[AdamGB]

It was an extremely close fight, and quite a shit one imo. I don't like Calzaghes as a fighter, the fact that Hopkins simply couldn't fight at his pace forced him to spoil endlessly and when I went to rewatch it a while back I just couldn't be bothered after a while. I don't think there's really even all that much to look for, neither guy was doing anything especially effective it just depends which style you find more aesthetically pleasing in the first place.

Not really, this one was down to who landed vastly more punches

Thank you. Might be the smartest thing you ever said. It does indeed come down to who landed more punches. Punches. Not slaps. It's pathetic how so many of y'all claim to know the sport of boxing but fail to realize that Calzaghe's open hand slaps are not legal, scoring blows.

Not to upset you too much but do you really find it confusing that more people support the opinion of the professional judges and referees who have officiated calzaghes years of fights when it comes to scoring blows over the opinion of a basement dwelling internet tough guy with a chip on his shoulder over any fighter from Europe?

You don't even understand the difference between a fact and an opinion... If you can't get simple things right then no wonder nobody listens to you.

[Althugz]

Hopkins punch output was atrocious. That is obvious to anyone and when you are outlanded as much as he was then the fight was no way close. Hopkins was outlanded so badly that he needed to fake lowblows just to get through it.

"Ooh but Hopkins landed 2 clean shots!". Sure, but Calzaghe tapped him 20 times. That is the round to Calzaghe.

This is why there is no point in even engaging in these arguments with the Calzaghe nuthuggers. Refusing even to acknowledge that a *split decision* "win" in which he was the only one who went down was at a minimum a close fight -- ridiculous.

I'm glad someone sees what's going here. It's a fight that is pretty much split 50-50 in opinion amongst fans, yet "anyone who thinks Calzaghe didn't win comfortably" doesn't know what they're talking about...hmmm