Marcos Maidana vs. Devon Alexander - Saturday night fight thread

[CutMeMick]

Not to over rate devon but he might have actully improved since mathyse kotelniko bradley...oh what's the deal on devons cut

It's not overrating, he's def got the goods.
I honestly thought he would beat Bradley.
At 147 I can see him beating Mike Jones and both Berto & Ortiz.

[CFH]

Not to over rate devon but he might have actully improved since mathyse kotelniko bradley...oh what's the deal on devons cut

It's not overrating, he's def got the goods.
I honestly thought he would beat Bradley.
At 147 I can see him beating Mike Jones and both Berto & Ortiz.

I thought he was going to knock out Bradley

[CutMeMick]

Not to over rate devon but he might have actully improved since mathyse kotelniko bradley...oh what's the deal on devons cut

It's not overrating, he's def got the goods.
I honestly thought he would beat Bradley.
At 147 I can see him beating Mike Jones and both Berto & Ortiz.

I thought he was going to knock out Bradley

I predicted a Decision win..
He just looked a little flat but I mean credit to Bradley he imposeed himself.

[Spicoli]

Not to over rate devon but he might have actully improved since mathyse kotelniko bradley...oh what's the deal on devons cut

It's not overrating, he's def got the goods.
I honestly thought he would beat Bradley.
At 147 I can see him beating Mike Jones and both Berto & Ortiz.

Jones would be fun but he needs to get busy, make a statement first. Alexander is straight sharpshooting here but I'd still be concerned with Ortiz natural size and straight punches. He has def rebounded tonight...took control and dictated!

[TitoFan]

One-sided shutout.

[Spicoli]

Did Bob say Maidana a better fighter than Matthysse? Smoker

[CFH]

Did Bob say Maidana a better fighter than Matthysse? Smoker

Matthysse would KO Maidana within 5 rounds.

[Spicoli]

Did Bob say Maidana a better fighter than Matthysse? Smoker

Matthysse would KO Maidana within 5 rounds.

Totally wit that now. Matthysse should be on HBO

[Mars_ax]

No argument about who won this fight. 100-90 - 100-90 and 99-91 all for Alexander.

Alexander is fairly humble in the interview, refreshing after watching the antics of Broner.

[armin]

Not to over rate devon but he might have actully improved since mathyse kotelniko bradley...oh what's the deal on devons cut

It's not overrating, he's def got the goods.
I honestly thought he would beat Bradley.
At 147 I can see him beating Mike Jones and both Berto & Ortiz.

Jones would be fun but he needs to get busy, make a statement first. Alexander is straight sharpshooting here but I'd still be concerned with Ortiz natural size and straight punches. He has def rebounded tonight...took control and dictated!

Nah but I thought he lost to kotelnik n mathyse wasn't really landin pullin his shots back to quick in this one he seemed to actually punch thru but id like to seem him in with a different type before I say he's Improved we've seen him look spectacular before against a straight forward slugger n then look crap against someone with skill

[captainanddew]

Not to over rate devon but he might have actully improved since mathyse kotelniko bradley...oh what's the deal on devons cut

It's not overrating, he's def got the goods.
I honestly thought he would beat Bradley.
At 147 I can see him beating Mike Jones and both Berto & Ortiz.

Jones would be fun but he needs to get busy, make a statement first. Alexander is straight sharpshooting here but I'd still be concerned with Ortiz natural size and straight punches. He has def rebounded tonight...took control and dictated!

Nah but I thought he lost to kotelnik n mathyse wasn't really landin pullin his shots back to quick in this one he seemed to actually punch thru but id like to seem him in with a different type before I say he's Improved we've seen him look spectacular before against a straight forward slugger n then look crap against someone with skill

Alexander has faced 6 world class fighters.

Witter-Sat down on his punches as he was landing cleanly alot.
Urango-wide open. Sat down on his punches because he was landing cleanly alot.
Kotelnik-Alexander came out and did his normal fighting early. When he wasn't landing alot he began totally shoeshining. Kotelnik would let Alexander throw 5 or 6 punches, dodge them, and then counter effectively
Bradley-won their fight.
Matthyse-good puncher but underrated technique. He throws straight punches. After a few rounds when Alexander wasn't able to just outbox him all to hell, he went to shoeshining.
Maidana-looked a little skittish early (but winning the rounds). Sat down on his punches more because he started landing cleanly. There wasn't that many counters coming back his way.

Alexander has moved up in weight. He does look physically stronger. And he will take a shot better as he isn't draining.

But fighting at 140 isn't why he lost to Bradley.

Fighting at 140 isn't why Kotelnik and Matthyse should have gotten decisions against him.


He lost those fights because he isn't naturally relaxed in the ring and those guys could box effectively enough.

He came out and when he isn't dominating after 3-4 rounds he doesn't relax. He tightens up and starts shoeshining all to hell and gives up the pretense of landing effective shots.

I think as soon as he is in with someone with good enough boxing ability and speed to figh him on relatively even terms, he will tighten up and fight like he did in the Bradley, Matthyse, and Kotelnik fights.

[armin]

Can't rep ya capn but completely agree with the asessment

[captainanddew]

Not to over rate devon but he might have actully improved since mathyse kotelniko bradley...oh what's the deal on devons cut

It's not overrating, he's def got the goods.
I honestly thought he would beat Bradley.
At 147 I can see him beating Mike Jones and both Berto & Ortiz.

Jones would be fun but he needs to get busy, make a statement first. Alexander is straight sharpshooting here but I'd still be concerned with Ortiz natural size and straight punches. He has def rebounded tonight...took control and dictated!

Nah but I thought he lost to kotelnik n mathyse wasn't really landin pullin his shots back to quick in this one he seemed to actually punch thru but id like to seem him in with a different type before I say he's Improved we've seen him look spectacular before against a straight forward slugger n then look crap against someone with skill

Alexander has faced 6 world class fighters.

Witter-Sat down on his punches as he was landing cleanly alot.
Urango-wide open. Sat down on his punches because he was landing cleanly alot.
Kotelnik-Alexander came out and did his normal fighting early. When he wasn't landing alot he began totally shoeshining. Kotelnik would let Alexander throw 5 or 6 punches, dodge them, and then counter effectively
Bradley-won their fight.
Matthyse-good puncher but underrated technique. He throws straight punches. After a few rounds when Alexander wasn't able to just outbox him all to hell, he went to shoeshining.
Maidana-looked a little skittish early (but winning the rounds). Sat down on his punches more because he started landing cleanly. There wasn't that many counters coming back his way.

Alexander has moved up in weight. He does look physically stronger. And he will take a shot better as he isn't draining.

But fighting at 140 isn't why he lost to Bradley.

Fighting at 140 isn't why Kotelnik and Matthyse should have gotten decisions against him.


He lost those fights because he isn't naturally relaxed in the ring and those guys could box effectively enough.

He came out and when he isn't dominating after 3-4 rounds he doesn't relax. He tightens up and starts shoeshining all to hell and gives up the pretense of landing effective shots.

I think as soon as he is in with someone with good enough boxing ability and speed to figh him on relatively even terms, he will tighten up and fight like he did in the Bradley, Matthyse, and Kotelnik fights.

I would be happy if he proves me wrong.

[Hulk]

I can't stand Broner, especially him being fed guys we've never even heard of then getting praise like he's above Lopez and Gamboa.

Also I'm a Maidana fan.

So the fights sucked and were disapointing for me.

[shza]

I just watched the fights. I thought Broner was extremely impressive. I hadn't seen much of Perez but had read a lot about how close of a fight this was supposedly going to be, and had seen several people pick Perez for the upset. And I saw Broner lose it and get lucky against PDL, so I gave the boxing writers hyping this up a lot of credence. Broner is an arrogant ass, for sure, but he was fun to watch in the right -- speed, great power, and great accuracy. And it looked especially clean in contrast to the wrestling match shit-show that followed it.

Although Alexander was totally dominant and looked much stronger and better pulled together than in his last couple fights, I actually finished the fight as even less of a fan than I was before. The clinch-as-defense thing is just horrendous to watch. Part of that can be chalked up to being in against a wild, undisciplined puncher; but that doesn't account for all of it. The fight was interesting for its result but not a fight I'd ever go back and rewatch -- it was ugly and aesthetically displeasing.