Mayweather - Cotto 2, December 1st, MGM Grand

[ElTerribleMorales]

It will be like the first fight with a similar outcome, it's just a money making rematch. I think Cotto should go after Canelo or Trout, somebody of that calibre and rebuild his name and maybe rematch Floyd down the line. I don't see the point in an
Immediate rematch, it was pretty clear Floyd won so why does he needs to prove it again in his next fight? Weird...

Warrior Cotto is dead. It's Money Miguel now. Cotto no longer cares rather he wins or loses. It's only about the money for him now. The old warrior Cotto would of never coward out of a fight against Saul Alvarez like Money Miguel did. Sad.

yea cause beating up Cotto's leftovers should have earned Alvarez a shot against him? lol VD you're always so full of shit bro, let Canelo fight someone who ISN'T SHOT beyond shit, Canelo "I love leftovers" Alvarez has yet to face a top 5 guy, cause sorry Cintron and Mosley don't count , let him fight Lara, Trout, Molina, or even Martirosyan, all of them are a step up to the crap he's been fighting

Ha! Cotto is coming off a clear cut loss and doesn't even hold a title. Yet now muthafukkas need to "earn" a shot to face him? Get the fuck on with that bullshit. That's some of the dumbest shit I ever read.
Fighters now must "earn" there shot to face a fighter coming off a loss. Fucking hilarious

he lost to the man who is considered P4P #1 in the world, he didn't go ahead and fight a washed up fighter who hadn't won in over 2 yrs, Canelo needs Cotto not vice versa, that's why the ginger is the one who has to EARN the shot, either way the only Cotto that the ginger will hold a W against is Jose Miguel, and even in that fight he was almost sparked

Yet again you show your ignorance and how little you really know about the sport. Alvarez is about to headline his first PPV as the A player. With or without Money Miguel. He already has his established fan base and is considered a cash cow. He don't need Cotto. He wants Cotto. But Cotto don't want him. Cuz he knows the beating that awaits him. You can spit all the little gay excuses you want. But bottom line is this. Alvarez-Cotto would be big and make a lot of money. And it's clearly more interesting than Mayweather-Cotto 2

beating? lol Canelo looked flat against a small shot Shane Mosley, you go on burning other fighters for just beating up nobodies and shot over the hill fighters yet as always you're here just throwing roses at Canelo lol fucking hypocrite, as I said, the only Cotto that Alvarez would ever hold a W against is Jose, Miguel Cotto stomps the ginger easier than he beat the cheating fuck lol

You wanna see a hypocrite? Look in the fucking mirror. That fag staring back at you is the hypocrite. I told you before your not a boxing fan. Your a Cotto fan. You pretend otherwise but it's pitiful how transparent you really are. Your quick to bad mouth Alvarez when he fought Kermit Cintron and Shane Mosley. Saying there shot and he should be fighting better fighters. Yet when Alvarez expresses a desire to face the best fighters around his weight (Mayweather and Cotto) you come up with moronic shit that he has to "earn" his shot. Stupid shit just for the sake of hating

hahahaha really bro? you of all people are gonna try and call ANYONE a fucking fanboy?! lol there are plenty of other fighters around at 154 that Alvarez could have fought instead of Hatton, Rhodes, Gomez, Cintron, and Mosley lol when that's your last 5 opponents well it tells the true story when there are guys like Kirkland, Trout, Molina, Lara, even Martirosyan, Angulo, and Quintana are a step up to his last five opponents, I'm not blaming Alvarez for his next fight cause he did go after at least two good fights and it's not his fault that both went flat (Williams had the accident and Kirkland was injured) but the fact that he was waiting for a smaller guy to get a win and be his next opponent says all you need to know, why the fuck fight Ortiz instead of any of the aforementioned opponents? it's as simple as this apart from fanbase (and he hasn't even headlined a fight card even on a minor PPV) what separates Canelo from anyone at 154 other than Cotto and Mayweather, that's right not a damn thing

[Violent Demise]

What's all the uproar about? All I've read from Cotto is that he set a date of Dec 1st for his comeback to the ring. To my knowledge, the opponent has yet to be decided. Canelo is set to fight on Sept 15, but doesn't have an opponent due to a run of bad luck. Granted, I myself don't see the outcome being any different in a Cotto-Mayweather rematch, although in boxing anything's possible. But Cotto is the mega-star here.... not Canelo. Canelo doesn't call the shots or makes the dates. That distinction belongs to Cotto. When Canelo has earned it.... then he can call the shots. If Canelo wants Cotto, he can decide to fight on Dec 1st, for the money he can expect to earn in a Cotto fight. Nothing complicated about that.

What are you basing your statement that Cotto is a Mega/bigger Star on? I know he's the veteran and most likely the more known fighter but I would think that Canelo is just a big of a draw as Cotto just based on numbers, there are after all more Mexicans than Puerto Ricans so it wouldnt be too off base to think that the PPV numbers for a Canelo PPV would be the same or more as a Cotto PPV. In terms of the live gate only in New York would Cotto be able to bring out a bigger crowd.

I'm gonna pull the "Mexican" card for the first time, since VD does it all the time in reverse and nobody calls him on it. You Mexicans are too hilarious for words. So now Canelo is a bigger star than Cotto because there are more Mexicans than Puerto Ricans?!? Really? Did you honestly say that?

Man.... I don't have to call you guys "idiots". You do a pretty good job of demonstrating that yourselves. And then VD chimes in. I swear the only time VD comes out of his hole in the ground is when a Mexican does good, or a Puerto Rican does bad. But lately he's been pretty quiet. Not a peep about Baby Chavez and his doping suspicions/controversy.... not a word when Margacheato went and retired. He only pops up to spout some racist shit, get his ass handed to him by me..... and crawls back into anonimity for a few weeks.

Must be that "baseball bat to the wrist" injury acting up again. Hilarious post if you've never seen it. (LMAO!!)

Hey bro. If the situation was reversed... and Canelo had the boxing pedigree and record Cotto has.... and Cotto was the 21-year old up-and-coming upstart..... you and VD would be frothing at the mouth if anyone dared say Cotto was the bigger star. But you both are so slanted toward Mexicans, it's downright funny.

But I gotta say... you both keep the forum from becoming boring sometimes, with your shit.

Chavez tested clean. You gonna tell me otherwise? Margarito made over 10 million in his last 2 fights. He still speaks well without hint of a slur. Perfect time for him to retire. Continue reading below

It will be like the first fight with a similar outcome, it's just a money making rematch. I think Cotto should go after Canelo or Trout, somebody of that calibre and rebuild his name and maybe rematch Floyd down the line. I don't see the point in an
Immediate rematch, it was pretty clear Floyd won so why does he needs to prove it again in his next fight? Weird...

Warrior Cotto is dead. It's Money Miguel now. Cotto no longer cares rather he wins or loses. It's only about the money for him now. The old warrior Cotto would of never coward out of a fight against Saul Alvarez like Money Miguel did. Sad.

yea cause beating up Cotto's leftovers should have earned Alvarez a shot against him? lol VD you're always so full of shit bro, let Canelo fight someone who ISN'T SHOT beyond shit, Canelo "I love leftovers" Alvarez has yet to face a top 5 guy, cause sorry Cintron and Mosley don't count , let him fight Lara, Trout, Molina, or even Martirosyan, all of them are a step up to the crap he's been fighting

Ha! Cotto is coming off a clear cut loss and doesn't even hold a title. Yet now muthafukkas need to "earn" a shot to face him? Get the fuck on with that bullshit. That's some of the dumbest shit I ever read.
Fighters now must "earn" there shot to face a fighter coming off a loss. Fucking hilarious

he lost to the man who is considered P4P #1 in the world, he didn't go ahead and fight a washed up fighter who hadn't won in over 2 yrs, Canelo needs Cotto not vice versa, that's why the ginger is the one who has to EARN the shot, either way the only Cotto that the ginger will hold a W against is Jose Miguel, and even in that fight he was almost sparked

Yet again you show your ignorance and how little you really know about the sport. Alvarez is about to headline his first PPV as the A player. With or without Money Miguel. He already has his established fan base and is considered a cash cow. He don't need Cotto. He wants Cotto. But Cotto don't want him. Cuz he knows the beating that awaits him. You can spit all the little gay excuses you want. But bottom line is this. Alvarez-Cotto would be big and make a lot of money. And it's clearly more interesting than Mayweather-Cotto 2

beating? lol Canelo looked flat against a small shot Shane Mosley, you go on burning other fighters for just beating up nobodies and shot over the hill fighters yet as always you're here just throwing roses at Canelo lol fucking hypocrite, as I said, the only Cotto that Alvarez would ever hold a W against is Jose, Miguel Cotto stomps the ginger easier than he beat the cheating fuck lol

You wanna see a hypocrite? Look in the fucking mirror. That fag staring back at you is the hypocrite. I told you before your not a boxing fan. Your a Cotto fan. You pretend otherwise but it's pitiful how transparent you really are. Your quick to bad mouth Alvarez when he fought Kermit Cintron and Shane Mosley. Saying there shot and he should be fighting better fighters. Yet when Alvarez expresses a desire to face the best fighters around his weight (Mayweather and Cotto) you come up with moronic shit that he has to "earn" his shot. Stupid shit just for the sake of hating

hahahaha really bro? you of all people are gonna try and call ANYONE a fucking fanboy?! lol there are plenty of other fighters around at 154 that Alvarez could have fought instead of Hatton, Rhodes, Gomez, Cintron, and Mosley lol when that's your last 5 opponents well it tells the true story when there are guys like Kirkland, Trout, Molina, Lara, even Martirosyan, Angulo, and Quintana are a step up to his last five opponents, I'm not blaming Alvarez for his next fight cause he did go after at least two good fights and it's not his fault that both went flat (Williams had the accident and Kirkland was injured) but the fact that he was waiting for a smaller guy to get a win and be his next opponent says all you need to know, why the fuck fight Ortiz instead of any of the aforementioned opponents? it's as simple as this apart from fanbase (and he hasn't even headlined a fight card even on a minor PPV) what separates Canelo from anyone at 154 other than Cotto and Mayweather, that's right not a damn thing

That's damn good opposition for a 21 year old. At 21 Cotto was fighting killers like Rudolfo Lunsford, Arturo Rodriguez, Joshua Smith, Sammy Sparkman and Juan Angel Macias. And Cotto had Olympic experience. Yet you continue to bad mouth Alvarez and swallow Cotto whole. Like I told you. Fucking hypocrite.

[ElTerribleMorales]

What's all the uproar about? All I've read from Cotto is that he set a date of Dec 1st for his comeback to the ring. To my knowledge, the opponent has yet to be decided. Canelo is set to fight on Sept 15, but doesn't have an opponent due to a run of bad luck. Granted, I myself don't see the outcome being any different in a Cotto-Mayweather rematch, although in boxing anything's possible. But Cotto is the mega-star here.... not Canelo. Canelo doesn't call the shots or makes the dates. That distinction belongs to Cotto. When Canelo has earned it.... then he can call the shots. If Canelo wants Cotto, he can decide to fight on Dec 1st, for the money he can expect to earn in a Cotto fight. Nothing complicated about that.

What are you basing your statement that Cotto is a Mega/bigger Star on? I know he's the veteran and most likely the more known fighter but I would think that Canelo is just a big of a draw as Cotto just based on numbers, there are after all more Mexicans than Puerto Ricans so it wouldnt be too off base to think that the PPV numbers for a Canelo PPV would be the same or more as a Cotto PPV. In terms of the live gate only in New York would Cotto be able to bring out a bigger crowd.

I'm gonna pull the "Mexican" card for the first time, since VD does it all the time in reverse and nobody calls him on it. You Mexicans are too hilarious for words. So now Canelo is a bigger star than Cotto because there are more Mexicans than Puerto Ricans?!? Really? Did you honestly say that?

Man.... I don't have to call you guys "idiots". You do a pretty good job of demonstrating that yourselves. And then VD chimes in. I swear the only time VD comes out of his hole in the ground is when a Mexican does good, or a Puerto Rican does bad. But lately he's been pretty quiet. Not a peep about Baby Chavez and his doping suspicions/controversy.... not a word when Margacheato went and retired. He only pops up to spout some racist shit, get his ass handed to him by me..... and crawls back into anonimity for a few weeks.

Must be that "baseball bat to the wrist" injury acting up again. Hilarious post if you've never seen it. (LMAO!!)

Hey bro. If the situation was reversed... and Canelo had the boxing pedigree and record Cotto has.... and Cotto was the 21-year old up-and-coming upstart..... you and VD would be frothing at the mouth if anyone dared say Cotto was the bigger star. But you both are so slanted toward Mexicans, it's downright funny.

But I gotta say... you both keep the forum from becoming boring sometimes, with your shit.

Chavez tested clean. You gonna tell me otherwise? Margarito made over 10 million in his last 2 fights. He still speaks well without hint of a slur. Perfect time for him to retire. Continue reading below

It will be like the first fight with a similar outcome, it's just a money making rematch. I think Cotto should go after Canelo or Trout, somebody of that calibre and rebuild his name and maybe rematch Floyd down the line. I don't see the point in an
Immediate rematch, it was pretty clear Floyd won so why does he needs to prove it again in his next fight? Weird...

Warrior Cotto is dead. It's Money Miguel now. Cotto no longer cares rather he wins or loses. It's only about the money for him now. The old warrior Cotto would of never coward out of a fight against Saul Alvarez like Money Miguel did. Sad.

yea cause beating up Cotto's leftovers should have earned Alvarez a shot against him? lol VD you're always so full of shit bro, let Canelo fight someone who ISN'T SHOT beyond shit, Canelo "I love leftovers" Alvarez has yet to face a top 5 guy, cause sorry Cintron and Mosley don't count , let him fight Lara, Trout, Molina, or even Martirosyan, all of them are a step up to the crap he's been fighting

Ha! Cotto is coming off a clear cut loss and doesn't even hold a title. Yet now muthafukkas need to "earn" a shot to face him? Get the fuck on with that bullshit. That's some of the dumbest shit I ever read.
Fighters now must "earn" there shot to face a fighter coming off a loss. Fucking hilarious

he lost to the man who is considered P4P #1 in the world, he didn't go ahead and fight a washed up fighter who hadn't won in over 2 yrs, Canelo needs Cotto not vice versa, that's why the ginger is the one who has to EARN the shot, either way the only Cotto that the ginger will hold a W against is Jose Miguel, and even in that fight he was almost sparked

Yet again you show your ignorance and how little you really know about the sport. Alvarez is about to headline his first PPV as the A player. With or without Money Miguel. He already has his established fan base and is considered a cash cow. He don't need Cotto. He wants Cotto. But Cotto don't want him. Cuz he knows the beating that awaits him. You can spit all the little gay excuses you want. But bottom line is this. Alvarez-Cotto would be big and make a lot of money. And it's clearly more interesting than Mayweather-Cotto 2

beating? lol Canelo looked flat against a small shot Shane Mosley, you go on burning other fighters for just beating up nobodies and shot over the hill fighters yet as always you're here just throwing roses at Canelo lol fucking hypocrite, as I said, the only Cotto that Alvarez would ever hold a W against is Jose, Miguel Cotto stomps the ginger easier than he beat the cheating fuck lol

You wanna see a hypocrite? Look in the fucking mirror. That fag staring back at you is the hypocrite. I told you before your not a boxing fan. Your a Cotto fan. You pretend otherwise but it's pitiful how transparent you really are. Your quick to bad mouth Alvarez when he fought Kermit Cintron and Shane Mosley. Saying there shot and he should be fighting better fighters. Yet when Alvarez expresses a desire to face the best fighters around his weight (Mayweather and Cotto) you come up with moronic shit that he has to "earn" his shot. Stupid shit just for the sake of hating

hahahaha really bro? you of all people are gonna try and call ANYONE a fucking fanboy?! lol there are plenty of other fighters around at 154 that Alvarez could have fought instead of Hatton, Rhodes, Gomez, Cintron, and Mosley lol when that's your last 5 opponents well it tells the true story when there are guys like Kirkland, Trout, Molina, Lara, even Martirosyan, Angulo, and Quintana are a step up to his last five opponents, I'm not blaming Alvarez for his next fight cause he did go after at least two good fights and it's not his fault that both went flat (Williams had the accident and Kirkland was injured) but the fact that he was waiting for a smaller guy to get a win and be his next opponent says all you need to know, why the fuck fight Ortiz instead of any of the aforementioned opponents? it's as simple as this apart from fanbase (and he hasn't even headlined a fight card even on a minor PPV) what separates Canelo from anyone at 154 other than Cotto and Mayweather, that's right not a damn thing

That's damn good opposition for a 21 year old. At 21 Cotto was fighting killers like Rudolfo Lunsford, Arturo Rodriguez, Joshua Smith, Sammy Sparkman and Juan Angel Macias. And Cotto had Olympic experience. Yet you continue to bad mouth Alvarez and swallow Cotto whole. Like I told you. Fucking hypocrite.

hahaha yet you choose to ignore the fact that Cotto was in a car accident around that same time and was sidelined due to surgery on his right arm, the ginger started his pro career at what 15? has over 40 pro fights so in terms of experience there's no excuse to why he hasn't stepped it up, you bashed Vazquez's choice of opponents who has even less experience and who has fought at a higher level and then have the nerve to call me a hypocrite lol, dude fuck yourself, you're just pissed cause the ginger is left out in the cold in big money fights and that the only fights out there are against REAL opposition without the big bucks, so he see's no reason in calling anyone else out

[Violent Demise]

hahaha yet you choose to ignore the fact that Cotto was in a car accident around that same time and was sidelined due to surgery on his right arm, the ginger started his pro career at what 15? has over 40 pro fights so in terms of experience there's no excuse to why he hasn't stepped it up, you bashed Vazquez's choice of opponents who has even less experience and who has fought at a higher level and then have the nerve to call me a hypocrite lol, dude fuck yourself, you're just pissed cause the ginger is left out in the cold in big money fights and that the only fights out there are against REAL opposition without the big bucks, so he see's no reason in calling anyone else out

Alvarez got 1.2 million for fighting Mosley. And he wasn't even the main event. Yeah he's really having a hard time making the big bucks.

And what the fuck does Cotto's car accident have to do with anything? If he's stepping in the ring to fight than he's by all rights 100%. The desperation to even bring it up is hilarious.

[ElTerribleMorales]

hahaha yet you choose to ignore the fact that Cotto was in a car accident around that same time and was sidelined due to surgery on his right arm, the ginger started his pro career at what 15? has over 40 pro fights so in terms of experience there's no excuse to why he hasn't stepped it up, you bashed Vazquez's choice of opponents who has even less experience and who has fought at a higher level and then have the nerve to call me a hypocrite lol, dude fuck yourself, you're just pissed cause the ginger is left out in the cold in big money fights and that the only fights out there are against REAL opposition without the big bucks, so he see's no reason in calling anyone else out

Alvarez got 1.2 million for fighting Mosley. And he wasn't even the main event. Yeah he's really having a hard time making the big bucks.

And what the fuck does Cotto's car accident have to do with anything? If he's stepping in the ring to fight than he's by all rights 100%. The desperation to even bring it up is hilarious.

the fact that you're this desperate to try and make the ginger look like an elite fighter when he has yet to step it up is what's laughable, funny you have nothing to say on the other statement, Venereal Disease try to spin it any way you want but the fact is Cotto could retire come the end of the year and 5 years later he's in the Hall of fame, Canelo could retire tomorrow and 5 years later he'll just be doing sunblock ads, it's not that complicated, you can bitch, moan, and throw all the tantrums you want, call anyone who doesn't agree with you a fag, douche, dick, bitch, and fill in the blank, and it doesn't change the fact that Canelo has yet to take on an opponent his size who's not shot to shit, plain and simple, that alone puts Cotto and Mayweather on a completely different level than the ginger

[Violent Demise]

hahaha yet you choose to ignore the fact that Cotto was in a car accident around that same time and was sidelined due to surgery on his right arm, the ginger started his pro career at what 15? has over 40 pro fights so in terms of experience there's no excuse to why he hasn't stepped it up, you bashed Vazquez's choice of opponents who has even less experience and who has fought at a higher level and then have the nerve to call me a hypocrite lol, dude fuck yourself, you're just pissed cause the ginger is left out in the cold in big money fights and that the only fights out there are against REAL opposition without the big bucks, so he see's no reason in calling anyone else out

Alvarez got 1.2 million for fighting Mosley. And he wasn't even the main event. Yeah he's really having a hard time making the big bucks.

And what the fuck does Cotto's car accident have to do with anything? If he's stepping in the ring to fight than he's by all rights 100%. The desperation to even bring it up is hilarious.

the fact that you're this desperate to try and make the ginger look like an elite fighter when he has yet to step it up is what's laughable, funny you have nothing to say on the other statement, Venereal Disease try to spin it any way you want but the fact is Cotto could retire come the end of the year and 5 years later he's in the Hall of fame, Canelo could retire tomorrow and 5 years later he'll just be doing sunblock ads, it's not that complicated, you can bitch, moan, and throw all the tantrums you want, call anyone who doesn't agree with you a fag, douche, dick, bitch, and fill in the blank, and it doesn't change the fact that Canelo has yet to take on an opponent his size who's not shot to shit, plain and simple, that alone puts Cotto and Mayweather on a completely different level than the ginger

Your stupidity knows no limits. Your actually comparing the 2 careers? Anything to try and get one right, huh? I'll give you the pity point. No Alvarez would not be in the HOF if he retired tomorrow. He's 21 years old. No fighter has ever retired that young and is in the HOF. Fucking genius. Thank you for stating the obvious. If Cotto would of retired at 21 would he of been HOF bound? Forget I asked that. I wouldn't put it pass your groupie ass to say yes.

[ElTerribleMorales]

exactly you stupid fucking chud, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW YOU DIPSHIT, Cotto right now is a HOF bound fighter where as Canelo is nothing more than a poster boy with little on his resume, you just fucking said it, so therfore CANELO is the one who needs the other, he's the one who has to do the earning the shot, but you're so fucking blind and well suck off any fighter that comes from the Red White and Green that you'll always find a way to bash a Puerto Rican fighter, funny HOW YOU HAVE YET TO ANSWER WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE VAZQUEZ JR/CANELO COMPARISON! fuck off dude lol you're one of the biggest groupie's on here, I called the Cotto/Mayweather fight just like it ended up being, a hard fought UD for Mayweather, you're just pissy cause he retired your cheating hero hahaha

[beenKOed]

Why? That's a fight I will not pay to see. Does anybody really expect a different result. I like Cotto, always have, but Mayweather was a couple of punches away from a KO at the end.