Mayweather - Cotto 2, December 1st, MGM Grand

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What's all the uproar about? All I've read from Cotto is that he set a date of Dec 1st for his comeback to the ring. To my knowledge, the opponent has yet to be decided. Canelo is set to fight on Sept 15, but doesn't have an opponent due to a run of bad luck. Granted, I myself don't see the outcome being any different in a Cotto-Mayweather rematch, although in boxing anything's possible. But Cotto is the mega-star here.... not Canelo. Canelo doesn't call the shots or makes the dates. That distinction belongs to Cotto. When Canelo has earned it.... then he can call the shots. If Canelo wants Cotto, he can decide to fight on Dec 1st, for the money he can expect to earn in a Cotto fight. Nothing complicated about that.

What are you basing your statement that Cotto is a Mega/bigger Star on? I know he's the veteran and most likely the more known fighter but I would think that Canelo is just a big of a draw as Cotto just based on numbers, there are after all more Mexicans than Puerto Ricans so it wouldnt be too off base to think that the PPV numbers for a Canelo PPV would be the same or more as a Cotto PPV. In terms of the live gate only in New York would Cotto be able to bring out a bigger crowd.

I'm gonna pull the "Mexican" card for the first time, since VD does it all the time in reverse and nobody calls him on it. You Mexicans are too hilarious for words. So now Canelo is a bigger star than Cotto because there are more Mexicans than Puerto Ricans?!? Really? Did you honestly say that?

Man.... I don't have to call you guys "idiots". You do a pretty good job of demonstrating that yourselves. And then VD chimes in. I swear the only time VD comes out of his hole in the ground is when a Mexican does good, or a Puerto Rican does bad. But lately he's been pretty quiet. Not a peep about Baby Chavez and his doping suspicions/controversy.... not a word when Margacheato went and retired. He only pops up to spout some racist shit, get his ass handed to him by me..... and crawls back into anonimity for a few weeks.

Must be that "baseball bat to the wrist" injury acting up again. Hilarious post if you've never seen it. (LMAO!!)

Hey bro. If the situation was reversed... and Canelo had the boxing pedigree and record Cotto has.... and Cotto was the 21-year old up-and-coming upstart..... you and VD would be frothing at the mouth if anyone dared say Cotto was the bigger star. But you both are so slanted toward Mexicans, it's downright funny.

But I gotta say... you both keep the forum from becoming boring sometimes, with your shit.

So what is your answer? I know you like to talk shit but there was still no answer. I'll clarify my statement for you. I am basing my question on the fact that Canelo can bring in just as much money as Cotto based on population numbers. I would think that the bigger "star" is the person who brings in more money and the money is what calls the shots.

Canelo is a bigger star because he is only 21 years old and is champion and headlining his own ppv's. He is undefeated hungry and young beating every challenge ( even if they arn't too challenging ) put in front of him. He was lined up to face some good fighters in Paul Williams , Kirland , and Ortiz so you can't really blame him for the opposition that he has gone against. Cotto on the other hand is no longer a warrior losing all of his big fights except for the one against the half-handicapped Antonio Margarito. He had a good fight with Mayweather but I doubt he has any other performances like that left. Based on those FACTS right now at the moment Canelo is a bigger star. Has nothing at all to do with ethnicity I don't know why you all always bring that into the discussion.

Not about what ethnicity either is. Its about who would bring in more money on a fight at this point in their careers. Cotto is a huge star but even if every Puerto Rican watched the fight it wouldnt take a quarter of the Mexican and Mexican Amercian population to watch the fight to bring in more money through PPV and live gate anywhere other than NY.

The orginal discussion was that Canelo wasnt the star so he doesnt get to call the shots, in reality the person who bring in more money is the one who calls the shots it doesnt matter if they have fought all fighters with losiing recrods and tomatoe cans and they were protected all their careers, etc, etc. What matters is who bring in the money and I think thre is a strong possibility that its Canelo not Cotto hence he is the bigger star and he would call the shots.