Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

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Peak Tyson beats Wlad, who will not be able to hold off the ferocity of Tyson’s combination punching, speed, accuracy and power. Wlad will try and hold, paw with his jab, panic and get knocked out in 5-6 rounds. Other than that Wlad does OK against Tyson.

Wlad 6'6....Mike Tyson 5'10
Wlad's reach 81".....Tyson's 71"
Weight Wlad 244...Tyson 218

Sure he's quick and fast and all, but I just don't see Tyson beating Wlad at Wlad's peak.

I don't see the point of using height and reach as arguments. Razor Ruddock was 6-3, with an 82" reach..... and prime Tyson handled him just fine. And Wlad's chin is more questionable than Razor's. It's ok to give Wlad his props.... but a prime Tyson takes him apart.

Wlad would not fight Tyson like Buster Douglas fought him.... driving him back.... refusing to be bullied.... trading with Tyson. That's not Wlad's style. And if and when Tyson ever connected one of those haymakers against Wlad, it would be "good night Irene". Gotta keep it real.

Exactly.

There are two Wlads in the same career. The pre-clinch Wlad and the post-clinch Wlad. I’m sure the Wlad that learned how to clinch gives Tyson a tougher out but really the prime Tyson prior to getting ruined completely by King would have butchered Wlad and I’m no fan of either. Reach and height are negated here by speed, pin point freight train punching and some of the best head movement ever. Add this to Wlads notorious slow starts and he’s a goner. He might want to put a couple of ads on the bottom of his shoes.

And who in his prime did he take on and beat that makes you think he would beat Wlad? It's ok saying he'd blow such and such away. Tyson blew bums away, I never ever in all his career saw him blow out a top notch fighter in his prime. He fought a past his prime Evander and got fucking hammered and a prime Lewis (to be fair Tyson was in clear decline by this time) and got obliterated.

Wlad is a top notch fighter whether you like his style or not. I think Tyson has serious issues with Wlad.

And who has Wlad fought at any time in his career that is anything like Tyson. The only thing I alluded to concerning style is that Wlads is tailor made for a prime Tyson.

I'm no fan of Tyson or Wlad so I have no dog in a fight. Tyson imo makes short work.

And yeah Wlad is top notch is the lamest heavyweight era in history and he's been floored about 11 times during it.

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Peak Tyson beats Wlad, who will not be able to hold off the ferocity of Tyson’s combination punching, speed, accuracy and power. Wlad will try and hold, paw with his jab, panic and get knocked out in 5-6 rounds. Other than that Wlad does OK against Tyson.

Wlad 6'6....Mike Tyson 5'10
Wlad's reach 81".....Tyson's 71"
Weight Wlad 244...Tyson 218

Sure he's quick and fast and all, but I just don't see Tyson beating Wlad at Wlad's peak.

I don't see the point of using height and reach as arguments. Razor Ruddock was 6-3, with an 82" reach..... and prime Tyson handled him just fine. And Wlad's chin is more questionable than Razor's. It's ok to give Wlad his props.... but a prime Tyson takes him apart.

Wlad would not fight Tyson like Buster Douglas fought him.... driving him back.... refusing to be bullied.... trading with Tyson. That's not Wlad's style. And if and when Tyson ever connected one of those haymakers against Wlad, it would be "good night Irene". Gotta keep it real.

Exactly.

There are two Wlads in the same career. The pre-clinch Wlad and the post-clinch Wlad. I’m sure the Wlad that learned how to clinch gives Tyson a tougher out but really the prime Tyson prior to getting ruined completely by King would have butchered Wlad and I’m no fan of either. Reach and height are negated here by speed, pin point freight train punching and some of the best head movement ever. Add this to Wlads notorious slow starts and he’s a goner. He might want to put a couple of ads on the bottom of his shoes.

And who in his prime did he take on and beat that makes you think he would beat Wlad? It's ok saying he'd blow such and such away. Tyson blew bums away, I never ever in all his career saw him blow out a top notch fighter in his prime. He fought a past his prime Evander and got fucking hammered and a prime Lewis (to be fair Tyson was in clear decline by this time) and got obliterated.

Wlad is a top notch fighter whether you like his style or not. I think Tyson has serious issues with Wlad.

And who has Wlad fought at any time in his career that is anything like Tyson. The only thing I alluded to concerning style is that Wlads is tailor made for a prime Tyson.

I'm no fan of Tyson or Wlad so I have no dog in a fight. Tyson imo makes short work.

And yeah Wlad is top notch is the lamest heavyweight era in history and he's been floored about 11 times during it.

Tysons era was as bad if not worse IMO. Witherspoon was about the best of the rest and he never even fought him. Much of that was due to Bonecrusher sparking him. Then again if Bonecrusher had tried before the final 30 seconds against Tyson he might have sparked him too. I'd say Haye is probably as good as anyone Tyson fought barring Holmes and Holmes was way way past it when Tyson fought him.

How is Wlad tailor made for Tyson? He hated being clinched, Wlad is the best I've ever seen at it. I'm not defending his style, I wish Wlad would open up more, but for me his intelligence is his biggest enemy. He knows he can control fights without having to get involved in a brawl.

Wlad also hits very hard, If Evander can KO him Wlad would put him to sleep. I'm not knocking Evander here, I'd have him to beat pretty much anyone since the 70's on his best day and that even includes Lennox. But Evander wasn't a Huge puncher as a HW.

To talk about Wlads defeats isn't really appropriate either. If you watch the first Peter fight and then watch the second, for me they were the beginning and the end of a new learning curve for Wlad, a learning curve that made him the best HW in the world BY FAR! He got floored multiple times (3 i think) and got up to win the first fight which to me showed that Wlad really wanted it now, I don't actually think Wlad didn't want it as such but after winning the olympics I think he just expected it all to just come and forgot he really had to work, I mean he gassed against Purrity! Could anyone see him gassing now? I don't. By the time Peter and Wlad fought again Wlad had improved so much that Peter didn't stand a chance.

Now if that was "PRIME" Tyson fighting them 2 fights I'd go with him to beat Wlad in the first fight but by the time the second came along? I don't see it! Wlad has completely got over his losses now and is in his prime (just watch him capitulate this weekend now), he's confident (which is a huge part of it), he's as big as you can get without seriously losing athleticism and he knows how to use it. A few years ago I thought Vitali was the better of the 2 because of his toughness, BUT Wlads boxing skills are so much more superior I think he's better now than Vitali ever was!

Wlad now beats Tyson at any point who to me is nowhere near as good as the Legend suggests.