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Master

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frankenfrank

Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by
frankenfrank

Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by
frankenfrank
Morales got badly stopped twice . Lopez put formidable fighters in survival mode and look again @ who he fought : Quartey , Page , Davis . Morales' best opponents except from McCullough were destroyed b4 he fought them : Pacquiao , Barera & Junior Jones .
Whereas Jones & Barera in their 3rd fight at least , if not in d 2nd as well were clearly past their prime .
And i m not 1 of those who consider primes as being arbitrarily 2 years long .
Aaron Davis was also past his prime when Lopez beat him but retired unstopped as opposed 2 Barera , Jones & Pacquiao so it means something .
Morales was well passed it when he was stopped, and he's become the ONLY Mexican 4 division champ (even if you don't want to count his title at 140, he was blatantly robbed against Diaz at 135), it's all about resume and his resume is better than both Ramirez and Lopez, and for the record no way in hell did Ramirez beat Whitaker in their first fight in France, I have the original recording of the fight and Whitaker dominated, Ramirez won the fight cause he was the crowd favorite due to the fact that he was living in France at the time of the fight
I watched it twice and Whitaker did not dominate anything but d running contest . How is constantly avoiding contact , doing no damage and always giving ground can b called a domination is a mystery 2 me . Ramirez deserved 2 win .
how does flailing your arms around and hitting nothing but air make you the winner, that's all Ramirez did
Ramirez came forward and was still being hit with jabs on the back foot, then Whitaker would get into the inside and bang the body and counters
i don't remember him getting hit with anything , especially if u refer 2 their 1st fight .
Seems like u refer 2 their 2nd 1 in which Whitaker barely did any better .
Ramirez was also past his prime by their 1st fight .
Whitaker is not all of Ramirez' record though . U forget Ramirez deserved 2 win against Arguello in their 1st fight but got robbed . Even Rosario in their 1st fight did not deserve d decision .
Ramirez fought : Chavez , Rosariio*2 , Camacho , Whitaker*2 , Arguello , Mancini , Olivares , Juan Martin Coggi .
Ramirez is d 3rd greatest Mexican fighter of all times , 5th @ worst .
You must be related to Ramirez because you are blindly re-writing history to suit him.

yea cause I don't remember him at all that way lol, and no bud, I was referring to the first fight where Whitaker potshotted him the whole fight and was then ROBBED unlike you state Ramirez was against Arguello and Rosario
as for him being the 3rd or at worst 5th greatest Mexican fighter, you're way off your rocker with that one, Chavez, Sanchez, Zarate, Morales, Barrera, Olivares, Lopez, JMM, Pintor, RM, Vazquez, all rank higher than Ramirez and there are still a few I left out
IMO the top 3 to come out of Mexico just due to records are Chavez, Sanchez, and Lopez, Barrera, Morales, and JMM following behind them
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