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no, Ricardo "Finito" Lopez is at worst the 3rd greatest Mexican fighter, the fact that you try to play down guys records such as Barrera and Morales because they have stoppage losses against championship level opposition is retarded, if we were to rate a guy higher solely based on the fact that they were never stopped Chuvalo would be considered the greatest HW of all time

1) This is even worse . Lopez beat no1 . His record is null and void . Who did he ever beat ? even Rosendo Alvarez was totally unproven by d time he fought him and did not amount 2 very much after either .
i do rank Barera , Morales and probably even Olivares , Castillo , Herera and Zarate higher than Ricardo Lopez and i bet many more deserve a higher ranking . Julio Cesar Gonzalez achieved more : think of this : went d distance with prime Roy Jones , fought Eric Harding*2 , outpointed a still prime Glen Johnson , fought Montell Griffin , Zsolt Erdei , outpointed n undefeated Dariusz Michalczewski in Germany (!) , fought Tavoris Cloud , was only stopped 1ce in a career that lasted in2 d 35th year of his life and that was still on his feet . Does Ricardo Lopez have 25% of this caliber of names in his record ? i even omitted shot David Telesco and old & undersized Reggie Johnson so i did not even try 2 count names 4 d sake of it . I only counted fights that matter . Hail Julio Gonzalez and may he RIP .
I guess I should list him in my all times top 10 Mexicans . It is 1 thing looking like a great fighting novices who barely know how 2 fight , however , remaining consistently mediocre against top level opponents does prove more .

2) (and) regarding Chuvalo , while on paper he was stopped twice , his loss 2 Foreman was 4 very real and had it been carried on , Foreman would have had him down and taken his head off or something like that . Chuvalo was really helpless against Foreman and that stoppage was legit . Against Frazier i believe it was a thumb or something even worse , so i don't count it really , but Chuvalo was stopped legitimately by George Foreman .
Oliver McCall is 1's choice 4 durability . Also Tua > Chuvalo in this department and in other departments .