Anyone Getting Tired Of Boxing Lately ?

[Dia bando]

no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.

I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.

Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.

You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.

This not UFC this is boxing you do seem to be living in La La land , pro boxer's fight for the best purse
they can get. What you want is not what you get, Children have this out look, but thank god kid's don't
run boxing.A career in boxing is about learning more fight you have the better you become, you have foolish out look on boxing stick to UFC.

The more you fight the better you become. Does not always work out that way. And you dont think 30 odd fights against nobodies is too many before a real fight. Look at Froch and Khan. They are the best fighters in this country and they are the two fighters that have taken the hard road there. People like Jhon Murray fought about 30 losers and lost to Mitchel. Did these 30 fights against unworthy opponents make him a better fighter. I dont think so. You need good opposition to improve.
Look at Cleverly. they wanted him to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for Clevs title which they thought would line Clev up with a shot at the winner of Dawson Hopkins. That would not prepare Clev for the fight at all. It would just be throwing a lamb to the slaughter to get Warren a bit of cash in his pocket.

You seem to think 4or 5 fight's and you are ready for a World title, far from it you need at lest 20 plus fights. As for Murray his biggest draw back is no ko punch,if he had one he would be a World Champion. Cleverly is a extremely good fighter, I remember him beating a lad form my son's old gym
many years back he was a talent then and still is now.
Warren may not be ever on's cup of tea, he's given us great fight and shit one's remember this is a money game, you talk about UFC Mr White is no different to Warren it all about the money, some
people act like Gentlemen but in reality far from it.
We all want to see great fights but in the big picture mangers and promoters, don't want to lose there cash cow do they. Remember this is not Cricket, it a sport were you knock the shit out of each other
simple.

[Leighton]

no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.

I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.

Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.

You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.

This not UFC this is boxing you do seem to be living in La La land , pro boxer's fight for the best purse
they can get. What you want is not what you get, Children have this out look, but thank god kid's don't
run boxing.A career in boxing is about learning more fight you have the better you become, you have foolish out look on boxing stick to UFC.

The more you fight the better you become. Does not always work out that way. And you dont think 30 odd fights against nobodies is too many before a real fight. Look at Froch and Khan. They are the best fighters in this country and they are the two fighters that have taken the hard road there. People like Jhon Murray fought about 30 losers and lost to Mitchel. Did these 30 fights against unworthy opponents make him a better fighter. I dont think so. You need good opposition to improve.
Look at Cleverly. they wanted him to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for Clevs title which they thought would line Clev up with a shot at the winner of Dawson Hopkins. That would not prepare Clev for the fight at all. It would just be throwing a lamb to the slaughter to get Warren a bit of cash in his pocket.

You seem to think 4or 5 fight's and you are ready for a World title, far from it you need at lest 20 plus fights. As for Murray his biggest draw back is no ko punch,if he had one he would be a World Champion. Cleverly is a extremely good fighter, I remember him beating a lad form my son's old gym
many years back he was a talent then and still is now.
Warren may not be ever on's cup of tea, he's given us great fight and shit one's remember this is a money game, you talk about UFC Mr White is no different to Warren it all about the money, some
people act like Gentlemen but in reality far from it.
We all want to see great fights but in the big picture mangers and promoters, don't want to lose there cash cow do they. Remember this is not Cricket, it a sport were you knock the shit out of each other
simple.

Exactly agree with you. We are basically with most fights watching a money making game for the managers and not challenging competition. If the sport was called watching a bunch of rich people get richer for feeding the public bullshit I wouldnt have any problem with it, at least it would be an appropriate name. And I agree with around 20 fights before a title shot not closer to thirty before they even face a top ten fighter (examples. Murray, Kell Brook, Mitchell, Michael Jennings). But opposition should increase in difficulty more than it does these days.
As for Cleverly my problem with him is that he has a title and he should be defending it against worthy opposition. If he is not ready for that worthy opposition he should give his title up and face the opposition he is comfortable with. He recently avoided a guy rankedd 9th in the world in order to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for the title. How does that make sense. Give a shot to a guy who does not deserve it.
Dana white is a money grabbing prick I agree. But he gains his money by giving the fans what they want. He pushes for exciting fights by adding bonusses for those who pull of a spectacular victory. I may not agree with it but it makes the fighter more hungry to put on a performance.
People in the UFC are not just shoved into a world rank fight. They are given suitable competition all the way up to there title fight if they make it and deserve a shot. Unlike boxing where you can fight around 27 or so nobodies and expect a title fight with the top of the devision. If you want to fight the best you should earn your place at the top by fighting other top ten fighters before the belt holders.

[Dia bando]

no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.

I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.

Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.

You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.

This not UFC this is boxing you do seem to be living in La La land , pro boxer's fight for the best purse
they can get. What you want is not what you get, Children have this out look, but thank god kid's don't
run boxing.A career in boxing is about learning more fight you have the better you become, you have foolish out look on boxing stick to UFC.

The more you fight the better you become. Does not always work out that way. And you dont think 30 odd fights against nobodies is too many before a real fight. Look at Froch and Khan. They are the best fighters in this country and they are the two fighters that have taken the hard road there. People like Jhon Murray fought about 30 losers and lost to Mitchel. Did these 30 fights against unworthy opponents make him a better fighter. I dont think so. You need good opposition to improve.
Look at Cleverly. they wanted him to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for Clevs title which they thought would line Clev up with a shot at the winner of Dawson Hopkins. That would not prepare Clev for the fight at all. It would just be throwing a lamb to the slaughter to get Warren a bit of cash in his pocket.

You seem to think 4or 5 fight's and you are ready for a World title, far from it you need at lest 20 plus fights. As for Murray his biggest draw back is no ko punch,if he had one he would be a World Champion. Cleverly is a extremely good fighter, I remember him beating a lad form my son's old gym
many years back he was a talent then and still is now.
Warren may not be ever on's cup of tea, he's given us great fight and shit one's remember this is a money game, you talk about UFC Mr White is no different to Warren it all about the money, some
people act like Gentlemen but in reality far from it.
We all want to see great fights but in the big picture mangers and promoters, don't want to lose there cash cow do they. Remember this is not Cricket, it a sport were you knock the shit out of each other
simple.

Exactly agree with you. We are basically with most fights watching a money making game for the managers and not challenging competition. If the sport was called watching a bunch of rich people get richer for feeding the public bullshit I wouldnt have any problem with it, at least it would be an appropriate name. And I agree with around 20 fights before a title shot not closer to thirty before they even face a top ten fighter (examples. Murray, Kell Brook, Mitchell, Michael Jennings). But opposition should increase in difficulty more than it does these days.
As for Cleverly my problem with him is that he has a title and he should be defending it against worthy opposition. If he is not ready for that worthy opposition he should give his title up and face the opposition he is comfortable with. He recently avoided a guy rankedd 9th in the world in order to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for the title. How does that make sense. Give a shot to a guy who does not deserve it.
Dana white is a money grabbing prick I agree. But he gains his money by giving the fans what they want. He pushes for exciting fights by adding bonusses for those who pull of a spectacular victory. I may not agree with it but it makes the fighter more hungry to put on a performance.
People in the UFC are not just shoved into a world rank fight. They are given suitable competition all the way up to there title fight if they make it and deserve a shot. Unlike boxing where you can fight around 27 or so nobodies and expect a title fight with the top of the devision. If you want to fight the best you should earn your place at the top by fighting other top ten fighters before the belt holders.

When you just had the WBA & WBC, you had to be a top contender to get a shot at a title, unlike
to day, of course times change there are 2 more in the mix, IBF & WBO.
I agree not all Champions are good, but there again some are the sport is media driven TV play's a big part , boxers and promoters demands for large purses PPV it all go's hand in hand.
Sport in general has changed for us as fan's over the years weather it's Football F1 etc now we have to pay to see your favourite sport. The TV people have a big say in the sport of boxing like it or not,
what sells. Do you think Bute would have come over here to fight Froch just for gate money simple answer no it was down to the TV they generate the big money for boxing you may not like it but it's a fact.Boxing short careers maximum earnings Floyd Pac man or any top fight don't fight for peanut's do they. The day's of Champions fighting for just gate money have long gone, yes I agree there should be better match ups, some times people fall for all the hype all the media is at fault it's what they do.

[Leighton]

no, I love it more and more each day best sport in the world, I will never get tired of anything that happens in the boxing world, It's the thing I love most in life and feel most passionate about. Shit goes down in any sport but it doesnt make me not want to watch it, there have been LOADS of excting fights within the last year, and it has made me want to follow the sport even more.

I cant think of any other sport where the two best players never go against each other. The fighters and promoters have to much power. There are too many fighters avoiding each other. Lots of really bad decisions. Very corrupt. Takes too long for a prospect to have a real fight. The belts dont really mean anything and there are more and more new belts popping up every five seconds.
He is getting irritated with the sport for those reasons. I can see his point. Would you watch tennis if Nadal and Jhocavic were too afraid to play each other in fear of losing. The sort of bullcrap that happens in boxing is unique to the sport and they manage to walk away with our money while feeding us there constant shit. Such as Jhon Murray fighting losers for 30 fights undefeated only to find out that he was not a top fighter when he lost to Mitchel. Or Cleverly having a title and wanting to defend it against a guy ranked 40th in the world when there are other much more worthy and deserving challenges.
Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.

Reading between the lines of a few of your posts, I am guessing that you are probably not John Murray's biggest fan.

You are right there. All the way up to the Mitchell fight. That was an awsome fight and Murray got exposed for what I knew he was. He puts up a good effort and fights hard but he was made out to be something he wasnt. If it takes all prospects in this country to have 30 fights before we know how good they are there are gonna be alot more jobs for journeymen out there.
If you look at my other posts I praise UFC as well. Not for the fact its a more exciting sport but because the right match ups are made at the right time and you find out how good fighters are alot earlier.

This not UFC this is boxing you do seem to be living in La La land , pro boxer's fight for the best purse
they can get. What you want is not what you get, Children have this out look, but thank god kid's don't
run boxing.A career in boxing is about learning more fight you have the better you become, you have foolish out look on boxing stick to UFC.

The more you fight the better you become. Does not always work out that way. And you dont think 30 odd fights against nobodies is too many before a real fight. Look at Froch and Khan. They are the best fighters in this country and they are the two fighters that have taken the hard road there. People like Jhon Murray fought about 30 losers and lost to Mitchel. Did these 30 fights against unworthy opponents make him a better fighter. I dont think so. You need good opposition to improve.
Look at Cleverly. they wanted him to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for Clevs title which they thought would line Clev up with a shot at the winner of Dawson Hopkins. That would not prepare Clev for the fight at all. It would just be throwing a lamb to the slaughter to get Warren a bit of cash in his pocket.

You seem to think 4or 5 fight's and you are ready for a World title, far from it you need at lest 20 plus fights. As for Murray his biggest draw back is no ko punch,if he had one he would be a World Champion. Cleverly is a extremely good fighter, I remember him beating a lad form my son's old gym
many years back he was a talent then and still is now.
Warren may not be ever on's cup of tea, he's given us great fight and shit one's remember this is a money game, you talk about UFC Mr White is no different to Warren it all about the money, some
people act like Gentlemen but in reality far from it.
We all want to see great fights but in the big picture mangers and promoters, don't want to lose there cash cow do they. Remember this is not Cricket, it a sport were you knock the shit out of each other
simple.

Exactly agree with you. We are basically with most fights watching a money making game for the managers and not challenging competition. If the sport was called watching a bunch of rich people get richer for feeding the public bullshit I wouldnt have any problem with it, at least it would be an appropriate name. And I agree with around 20 fights before a title shot not closer to thirty before they even face a top ten fighter (examples. Murray, Kell Brook, Mitchell, Michael Jennings). But opposition should increase in difficulty more than it does these days.
As for Cleverly my problem with him is that he has a title and he should be defending it against worthy opposition. If he is not ready for that worthy opposition he should give his title up and face the opposition he is comfortable with. He recently avoided a guy rankedd 9th in the world in order to fight a guy ranked 40th in the world for the title. How does that make sense. Give a shot to a guy who does not deserve it.
Dana white is a money grabbing prick I agree. But he gains his money by giving the fans what they want. He pushes for exciting fights by adding bonusses for those who pull of a spectacular victory. I may not agree with it but it makes the fighter more hungry to put on a performance.
People in the UFC are not just shoved into a world rank fight. They are given suitable competition all the way up to there title fight if they make it and deserve a shot. Unlike boxing where you can fight around 27 or so nobodies and expect a title fight with the top of the devision. If you want to fight the best you should earn your place at the top by fighting other top ten fighters before the belt holders.

When you just had the WBA & WBC, you had to be a top contender to get a shot at a title, unlike
to day, of course times change there are 2 more in the mix, IBF & WBO.
I agree not all Champions are good, but there again some are the sport is media driven TV play's a big part , boxers and promoters demands for large purses PPV it all go's hand in hand.
Sport in general has changed for us as fan's over the years weather it's Football F1 etc now we have to pay to see your favourite sport. The TV people have a big say in the sport of boxing like it or not,
what sells. Do you think Bute would have come over here to fight Froch just for gate money simple answer no it was down to the TV they generate the big money for boxing you may not like it but it's a fact.Boxing short careers maximum earnings Floyd Pac man or any top fight don't fight for peanut's do they. The day's of Champions fighting for just gate money have long gone, yes I agree there should be better match ups, some times people fall for all the hype all the media is at fault it's what they do.

I know. And its a shame. Theres always people like Froch out there to cheer me up. Look at his last eight fights. He may not have won them all but the guy is a warrior and a credit to the sport.

[TitoFan]

I haven't been following boxing really for atleast a year, im getting sick of all the bad decision's, fights not happening. And just in general no real exciting fights, hate to put a downer on it but does anyone else feel the same way ?

(Don't want to get accused of starting another thread, so I'll just bump this one up... since it's related to the subject at hand).


Was looking at this post, and I'd have to agree with two out of the three points ICB mentioned: bad decisions, and big fights not happening. Fortunately, we DO get the occasional exciting fight every now and then. Anyway, I ran across this article in the Fox Sports page. Granted, it's just a guy in Fox Sports writing about boxing (and horse racing). But it's another person's opinion that is read by countless readers that turn to Fox Sports for the latest sports news.

I'll Have Another, Manny Pacquiao underscore shadiness of their sports - News | FOX Sports on MSN

Everytime someone frets about the state of boxing nowadays, we hear the same, standard responses:

a. Boxing's been around for over a hundred years... and it will always be around.

b. Yeah... boxing's got its problems. But they can't be fixed. They are (shudder) part of boxing.


Meanwhile, MMA grows bigger and bigger... and boxing loses fans daily. I love boxing. I've loved it since I watched my first big fight. And I'd like to see it last another 100 years. But something's broken, and it needs to be fixed.

First of all... what's with the ancient mummies ruling the sport (i.e.: Jose Sulaiman)? Doesn't this scumbag ever plan to retire? Someone should show this guy the door... maybe give him a gold watch first. And what about Oscar de la Hoya? Wasn't he talking about doing something positive for boxing once he retired? Didn't he mention something about being actively involved in the fixing of the sport? Wasn't he supposed to be the new blood? Taking over from the Don Kings and the Bob Arums? Whatever happened to that? As far as I know, DLH is only lining his pockets through his own GBP organization, when not modeling fishnets or doing recreational drugs.

Hell. I even read these days that football/soccer is going to implement goal-line technology. Imagine! A sport as mired in tradition as football/soccer.... modernizing! All other sports change with the times (read the article). How about boxing?

Bad decisions, top fighters not facing each other, increasing doping incidences.... it's enough to make one puke. Doping is in other sports as well, but they are doing vast amounts more to try to fix the problem than boxing is.

But change has to come from the top. And as long as scumbags like Jose Sulaiman have no one to answer to, change will never happen. Judging will not be improved. Refereeing will not be improved. Big fights will not be made in a timely fashion (only when the fighters are over-the-hill). More and more fighters will come up dirty in doping tests. And boxing will slowly sink into fringe sport hell, with a few of us diehard fans hanging on to the wreckage.

[Nameless]

Nope There is always a cool fight in the making, something that I am waiting for, no matter what.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

I haven't been following boxing really for atleast a year, im getting sick of all the bad decision's, fights not happening. And just in general no real exciting fights, hate to put a downer on it but does anyone else feel the same way ?

-Roidsters andre berto, antonio tarver and lamont peterson exposed.

-The manny/bradley debacle.

-Mayweather jailed.

Other than that....

[brocktonblockbust]

I haven't been following boxing really for atleast a year, im getting sick of all the bad decision's, fights not happening. And just in general no real exciting fights, hate to put a downer on it but does anyone else feel the same way ?

ı have felt thıs way sınce 2005 or so.

[beenKOed]

I've been watching boxing, steadily, for fifty-seven years, and it's given me pleasure and pain, but I've never wanted to turn my back on it. Those few minutes when two men or two women get in the ring to answer the guestion, who's the best, make all the BS worth it! It's pure, it's elemental, and for me, dammed near irresistible. Boxing has some serious problems, but there's no way I'm ever going to stop watching it.

[BARNEYKX]

I've been watching boxing, steadily, for fifty-seven years, and it's given me pleasure and pain, but I've never wanted to turn my back on it. Those few minutes when two men or two women get in the ring to answer the guestion, who's the best, make all the BS worth it! It's pure, it's elemental, and for me, dammed near irresistible. Boxing has some serious problems, but there's no way I'm ever going to stop watching it.

I

65 YEARS I BEEN A FAN OF THE FIGHT GAME ,one thing i do not go for is to many titles must be 6 world champions in each weight category nowadays ,in the 40s and 50s every kid could have told who was the world heavyweight champion now you got so many damn versions of it and all to suit PPV television to many farcial fights and bum decisions as well its like a circus, in fact i prefer to watch the amateurs where you can see real triers heart and soul into the game but it to is fraught with some very poor judgings,looking forward to the olympic and what the cubans have this time around,i think Ireland is assured of 1 gold with Katie Taylor another 2 or 3 could make the finalsgood luck to them

[TitoFan]

I've been watching boxing, steadily, for fifty-seven years, and it's given me pleasure and pain, but I've never wanted to turn my back on it. Those few minutes when two men or two women get in the ring to answer the guestion, who's the best, make all the BS worth it! It's pure, it's elemental, and for me, dammed near irresistible. Boxing has some serious problems, but there's no way I'm ever going to stop watching it.

I've been watching boxing, steadily, for fifty-seven years, and it's given me pleasure and pain, but I've never wanted to turn my back on it. Those few minutes when two men or two women get in the ring to answer the guestion, who's the best, make all the BS worth it! It's pure, it's elemental, and for me, dammed near irresistible. Boxing has some serious problems, but there's no way I'm ever going to stop watching it.

I

65 YEARS I BEEN A FAN OF THE FIGHT GAME ,one thing i do not go for is to many titles must be 6 world champions in each weight category nowadays ,in the 40s and 50s every kid could have told who was the world heavyweight champion now you got so many damn versions of it and all to suit PPV television to many farcial fights and bum decisions as well its like a circus, in fact i prefer to watch the amateurs where you can see real triers heart and soul into the game but it to is fraught with some very poor judgings,looking forward to the olympic and what the cubans have this time around,i think Ireland is assured of 1 gold with Katie Taylor another 2 or 3 could make the finalsgood luck to them

Glad to see a couple of old-timers weighing in on the matter. No.... us diehard boxing fans are not going to turn our backs on boxing. We're not gonna abandon this sport we love so much. But it's frustrating to see how other sports implement changes for the better, and yet boxing remains stagnant. We still have corrupt old dinosaurs like Sulaiman calling the shots in the WBC... we still have not found an answer to corrupt and/or inept judging... and we still have to live without big fights that never get made due to the greediness of promoters. Some changes have been made over the years, to be honest. Like the change from 15 to 12 rounds in championship fights. I don't know if this in fact has saved boxer's lives or prevented more brain damage. I do miss the excitement of some classic 15 round fights, though. Also, CompuBox may not be perfect... but at least it makes the attempt to take the subjectiveness out of judging. But more can be done. We need some new blood at the top. I honestly thought Oscar de la Hoya was going to use his considerable influence to help the sport. But unfortunately I don't think he's done that. Not that he should feel obligated, but it would be nice to have someone with Oscar's pull doing more to improve boxing.

But in the end, I'm like everyone else that loves boxing. I'll just keep watching no matter what. Put a boxing card together, and I'll be there.

[Spicoli]

I'm watching Adrien Broner () with a premier piece on HBO right now sayng he's on par with Floyd Mayweather and accomplishing more flash on the camera than he's accomplished in the ring thus far....this is what turns me off on boxing now. Force feeding "super stars" and manufacturing hype & characters for the sake of a network. That is tired.

[Beanz]

I'm watching Adrien Broner () with a premier piece on HBO right now sayng he's on par with Floyd Mayweather and accomplishing more flash on the camera than he's accomplished in the ring thus far....this is what turns me off on boxing now. Force feeding "super stars" and manufacturing hype & characters for the sake of a network. That is tired.

He is a bit of a tit but then it will be much more fun when somebody smacks him clean in the mouth and puts him on his feathered fringe, shorts shaking arse

[Spicoli]

I'm watching Adrien Broner () with a premier piece on HBO right now sayng he's on par with Floyd Mayweather and accomplishing more flash on the camera than he's accomplished in the ring thus far....this is what turns me off on boxing now. Force feeding "super stars" and manufacturing hype & characters for the sake of a network. That is tired.

He is a bit of a tit but then it will be much more fun when somebody smacks him clean in the mouth and puts him on his feathered fringe, shorts shaking arse

Well, this is true. But that's what I follow Floyd for All kidding aside it's just cheap and transparent. More my problem is with the network. They are continually rushing sone guys to market and forcing the next flavor of the month. I've noticed it more and more with guys who are still so wet behind the ears, non established. When I started following the sport that platform was called ESPN or a commercial network. Broner doesn't even merit the skepticism yet, earn your spot! Even worse its spring boarded off what any fair minded fan would call a shoddy showing and arguable loss with Ponce Deleon! It's the Berto-ism of a fighter and I think HBO short changes the fans and at least in Bertos case convinces a young fighter he really is all that top notch and polished while he really has ignored and made mistakes a part of a routine. Honestly, I think Donaire is showing it as of late also. Sometimes too much exposure is a bad thing. Just fookin fight man, this ain't a comic book or pro wrestling where everyone has to be a character.