Top fighters out of every country

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Honestly man, and everyones entitled to an opinion, but as they say across the pond you've lost the plot. You strike me as someone who literally keeps Boxrec as a screen saver and I'm not sure you have seen even half of the guys you so flippingly label as bums and no bodies. Watch Ohashi fight or Sorjaturong fight and tell me their bums. Not knowing a fighter and not recognizing a name are very different. I too wanted a Lopez "dream match" sooner and history is littered with guys you wanted to move up. Carbajal and Lopez were two that missed each other not from avoidance but the sport playing through as it were. Finito had yet to even make his U.S audience debut by the time Michael had beaten and then lose to Gonzalez and frankly peak. Up until that point Lt Fly and Minimum were very much in the same boat. They were indeed the adopted red headed step child of boxing and still to this day get scoffed at. Carbajal AND Lopez did nothing but give it a shot in he arm and demand over due respect in the lower weights. Wide speculation as you say is based on the history and style, ability, skill fighters have displayed and would work far better to boost your case than scanning through some stat sheet records and fast forwarding over you tube. I mean why didn't a Lopez "challenge" a Melchor Cob Castro Dear God man, thats just winging it. To think a Gonzalez, God rest his soul, should rank higher than the calibur and skill of a Lopez based on simply being durable, lasting the rounds albeit in a losing effort to some and springing an upset is just loony tunes bro. For fuck sakes your describing half the journeymen in the sport. What next, Iran Barkely top 10-15? How about an Oliver McCall? You can think what you want bud, keep keeping on, but the way you generalize and dismiss fighters is unfortunate and short sighted.

Those i label as bums and nobodies i indeed haven't seen because i usually don't have interest at watching those .
I watched hundreds of fights , never fast 4warding and dismissing highlights and partial fights almost every time along deeply browsing boxrec , PPL's posts , some interviews read and a few interviews watched and a few articles as well .
JCGonzalez not only lasted d rounds but also won decisions against Glen Johnson and Dariusz Michalczewski (in Germany (!!) nonetheless) .
RLopez never foght anybody near that level . Then i did not repeat d names of d men JCGonzalez fought overall which is quite n impressing list .
It's Chris Eubanks who listed Barkley in his top 10 p4p of all times , not I . I will b much less eccentric in this 1 and just state that Barkley won ("(respected) world") titles @ 3 consecutive weights : 160 , 168 , 175 . Should i even start going through his list of wins and list of fought opponents overall ? Barkley is universes above RLopez in terms of warriorness , and by just d same Xtent more tested and proven , even if I don't have him in my top 70 of all times , nor even d top 40 of since 1980 . Wherever I have Barkley I have Lopez lower .
"Skill" means shit when it's untested and unproven . I can shadowbox beautifully . Maybe U all start ranking me ahead of Lopez .
Oliver McCall was a great fighter . A world champion who really beat d #1 in order 2 become a world champion , but it doesn't stop there . His "loss" 2 Lewis doesn't mean even shit , because McCall was just not in a condition 2 fight , he signed d fight while still in a rehabilitation institute and had withdrawal syndrome while in d ring and not enough time 2 train , and was not given d appropriate sparing partners . And then Lewis is not his only big win , Akinwande , Maskaev , Bruce Seldon and then Francesco Damiani come 2 mind , and a decision win over Jesse Fegusson , a younger , better fresher Jesse Fergusson than d 1 who beat Ray Mercer twice and James Douglas once , stopped Reggie Gross and was robbed against Larry Holmes . I also doubt d validity of McCall's decision losses 2 both Tony Tucker and Orlin Norris . U certainly haven't done your homework and demonstrate d knowledge of a casual , limited only 2d highest profile fights and d popular consensus . And u mentioned short sightedness . Your posts in this thread r d epitome of short sightedness among other things .