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    Default Re: Top fighters out of every country

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    yea Ramirez was as rightfully rewarded the decision as Bradley was against Pacquiao, as Casamayor was against Santa Cruz, and as Chavez was against well Whitaker, again you're saying that Sanchez was "no good" without having seen a single fight of his yet you try to build yourself up as an expert on Mexican and Puerto Rican fighters because you've seen a couple Ramirez fights, claiming that we haven't seen the fights you've mentioned just cause well we don't agree with your claims that Ramirez is anywhere close to being top 5 best at anything, keep fooling yourself bro cause the fact that no one here agrees with you just speaks volumes
    Bradley against Pacquiao was a bad decision , d rest u mentioned i haven't watched yet but i doubt that u had , because i don't count watching highlights , skipping parts and fast 4warding as watching a fight . A man who systematically proven as being unable 2 defend himself is not good . I haven't seen just a couple of Ramirez fights , but u obviously haven't even watched "a couple" of Ramirez' fights . I M flattered 2 being disagreed with with PPL whom post such ignorant replies . It's a positive feedback 4 me .
    unlike you buddy I actually know boxing, am on here pretty much for every meaningful fight posting while watching the fight live, thing is the only one here rambling on like an ignorant retard is you , if the only thing you base as being a great fighter is durability then fuck me you must have Tommy Hearns at the bottom of the barrel, Bradley/Pacquiao decision was just as bad as Whitaker/Ramirez I, if anything less so because at least Bradley was competitive with Manny, Ramirez at no point was competitive against the man who boxed circles around him and made him look like an amateur or as you put it a cab driver

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    Default Re: Top fighters out of every country

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    unlike you buddy I actually know boxing, am on here pretty much for every meaningful fight posting while watching the fight live, thing is the only one here rambling on like an ignorant retard is you , if the only thing you base as being a great fighter is durability then fuck me you must have Tommy Hearns at the bottom of the barrel, Bradley/Pacquiao decision was just as bad as Whitaker/Ramirez I, if anything less so because at least Bradley was competitive with Manny, Ramirez at no point was competitive against the man who boxed circles around him and made him look like an amateur or as you put it a cab driver
    So u R somewhat more than just a casual fan , a wrong choice of words on my part , u r a follower of d sport . Still there's a difference between following d sport , which i believe u do more than i , and knowing its history since b4 u started following . Watching every "fab 4" fight 3 times doesn't make even a mediocre historian out of 1 , just like skipping their majority due 2 knowing d facts behind them doesn't reduce 1 2 being a mediocre historian of d sport . Understand ?
    Bradley was competitive with Manny , yes . But avoiding contact at all cost (including not landing 1's punches) is not making d other 1 looking like n amateur . Arguably Whitaker wasn't competitive against Ramirez . D sport is not just about not getting hit , it's also about hitting , which Whitaker did not do more than getting hit . Whitaker hadn't "boxed circles" , he fled in all sorts of ways and did no damage while doing so .
    Regarding Hearns , i rank him somewhere near where i rank Barkley , slightly below Robbie Sims , Michael Nunn and Sumbu Kalambay i guess .
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    Default Re: Top fighters out of every country

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    unlike you buddy I actually know boxing, am on here pretty much for every meaningful fight posting while watching the fight live, thing is the only one here rambling on like an ignorant retard is you , if the only thing you base as being a great fighter is durability then fuck me you must have Tommy Hearns at the bottom of the barrel, Bradley/Pacquiao decision was just as bad as Whitaker/Ramirez I, if anything less so because at least Bradley was competitive with Manny, Ramirez at no point was competitive against the man who boxed circles around him and made him look like an amateur or as you put it a cab driver
    So u R somewhat more than just a casual fan , a wrong choice of words on my part , u r a follower of d sport . Still there's a difference between following d sport , which i believe u do more than i , and knowing its history since b4 u started following . Watching every "fab 4" fight 3 times doesn't make even a mediocre historian out of 1 , just like skipping their majority due 2 knowing d facts behind them doesn't reduce 1 2 being a mediocre historian of d sport . Understand ?
    Bradley was competitive with Manny , yes . But avoiding contact at all cost (including not landing 1's punches) is not making d other 1 looking like n amateur . Arguably Whitaker wasn't competitive against Ramirez . D sport is not just about not getting hit , it's also about hitting , which Whitaker did not do more than getting hit . Whitaker hadn't "boxed circles" , he fled in all sorts of ways and did no damage while doing so .
    Regarding Hearns , i rank him somewhere near where i rank Barkley , slightly below Robbie Sims , Michael Nunn and Sumbu Kalambay i guess .


    Well that just does it!!! The guy's a freaking genius!
    He ranks Thomas "The Hitman" Hearns below the great Robbie Sims.

    Robbie Sims' highlights:

    • Lifetime 38-10-2 record.
    • Lost to Bobby Czyz.
    • Beat a young Iran Barkley (7-1) in 1984.
    • Beat an over-the-hill Roberto Duran (79-6) in 1986.
    • Toward the end of his career, he fought the following notables:
      • Robert "Vindaloo" Curry (19-29)
      • Dennis "The Menace" Johnson (14-19)
      • Keheven Johnson (23-29-2)
    How in the world can ANYONE dispute this genius' rankings??

    Oh wait..... I forgot...... Sims was the half-brother of "Marvelous Marvin Hagler". And we all know what Hagler did to Hearns. Ergo, Sims must be ranked above Hearns. The genius of it all!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Well that just does it!!! The guy's a freaking genius!
    He ranks Thomas "The Hitman" Hearns below the great Robbie Sims.

    Robbie Sims' highlights:

    • Lifetime 38-10-2 record.
    • Lost to Bobby Czyz.
    • Beat a young Iran Barkley (7-1) in 1984.
    • Beat an over-the-hill Roberto Duran (79-6) in 1986.
    • Toward the end of his career, he fought the following notables:
      • Robert "Vindaloo" Curry (19-29)
      • Dennis "The Menace" Johnson (14-19)
      • Keheven Johnson (23-29-2)
    How in the world can ANYONE dispute this genius' rankings??

    Oh wait..... I forgot...... Sims was the half-brother of "Marvelous Marvin Hagler". And we all know what Hagler did to Hearns. Ergo, Sims must be ranked above Hearns. The genius of it all!!
    He lost by decision 2 Bobby Czyz @ 160 , but Czyz was much younger and fresher than when he fought Holyfield , and Sims was not Holyfield's size . Remember Czyz went on 2 become d lightheavyweight champion of d world , with some successful defenses of his title .
    Czyz also was/is n intelligent man and was big and strong 4 a middleweight .
    Sims KOd Iran Barkley , d same Iran Barkley whom stopped Hearns and later beat him again .
    Sims also outpointed Roberto Duran . It was 3 years b4 Duran went on 2 beat Barkley .
    Sims also gave Hearns a tough fight . It's more than what Robero Duran can say .
    Then he went 12 rds against Kalambay . Not a great feat in itself , but it certainly does enhance his resume , and since i haven't watched that fight yet , i doubt if Kalambay deserved that win since it was in Italy .
    Hearns was a popular fighter , not a really great 1 . It's ignorant ppl like yourself who consider him a great . Hearns was good , but being so big 4 1's division but still managing 2 lose by stoppage more than 1ce , and then by decision 2 1 of d men who stopped him does not prove greatness .

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Well that just does it!!! The guy's a freaking genius!
    He ranks Thomas "The Hitman" Hearns below the great Robbie Sims.

    Robbie Sims' highlights:

    • Lifetime 38-10-2 record.
    • Lost to Bobby Czyz.
    • Beat a young Iran Barkley (7-1) in 1984.
    • Beat an over-the-hill Roberto Duran (79-6) in 1986.
    • Toward the end of his career, he fought the following notables:
      • Robert "Vindaloo" Curry (19-29)
      • Dennis "The Menace" Johnson (14-19)
      • Keheven Johnson (23-29-2)
    How in the world can ANYONE dispute this genius' rankings??

    Oh wait..... I forgot...... Sims was the half-brother of "Marvelous Marvin Hagler". And we all know what Hagler did to Hearns. Ergo, Sims must be ranked above Hearns. The genius of it all!!
    He lost by decision 2 Bobby Czyz @ 160 , but Czyz was much younger and fresher than when he fought Holyfield , and Sims was not Holyfield's size . Remember Czyz went on 2 become d lightheavyweight champion of d world , with some successful defenses of his title .
    Czyz also was/is n intelligent man and was big and strong 4 a middleweight .
    Sims KOd Iran Barkley , d same Iran Barkley whom stopped Hearns and later beat him again .
    Sims also outpointed Roberto Duran . It was 3 years b4 Duran went on 2 beat Barkley .
    Sims also gave Hearns a tough fight . It's more than what Robero Duran can say .
    Then he went 12 rds against Kalambay . Not a great feat in itself , but it certainly does enhance his resume , and since i haven't watched that fight yet , i doubt if Kalambay deserved that win since it was in Italy .
    Hearns was a popular fighter , not a really great 1 . It's ignorant ppl like yourself who consider him a great . Hearns was good , but being so big 4 1's division but still managing 2 lose by stoppage more than 1ce , and then by decision 2 1 of d men who stopped him does not prove greatness .


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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post


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    And Sims also lasted 6 more rds against Benn than Barkley had .

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    unlike you buddy I actually know boxing, am on here pretty much for every meaningful fight posting while watching the fight live, thing is the only one here rambling on like an ignorant retard is you , if the only thing you base as being a great fighter is durability then fuck me you must have Tommy Hearns at the bottom of the barrel, Bradley/Pacquiao decision was just as bad as Whitaker/Ramirez I, if anything less so because at least Bradley was competitive with Manny, Ramirez at no point was competitive against the man who boxed circles around him and made him look like an amateur or as you put it a cab driver
    So u R somewhat more than just a casual fan , a wrong choice of words on my part , u r a follower of d sport . Still there's a difference between following d sport , which i believe u do more than i , and knowing its history since b4 u started following . Watching every "fab 4" fight 3 times doesn't make even a mediocre historian out of 1 , just like skipping their majority due 2 knowing d facts behind them doesn't reduce 1 2 being a mediocre historian of d sport . Understand ?
    Bradley was competitive with Manny , yes . But avoiding contact at all cost (including not landing 1's punches) is not making d other 1 looking like n amateur . Arguably Whitaker wasn't competitive against Ramirez . D sport is not just about not getting hit , it's also about hitting , which Whitaker did not do more than getting hit . Whitaker hadn't "boxed circles" , he fled in all sorts of ways and did no damage while doing so .
    Regarding Hearns , i rank him somewhere near where i rank Barkley , slightly below Robbie Sims , Michael Nunn and Sumbu Kalambay i guess .
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