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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

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    A prime Oscar over Floyd, possibly but I think he still would have choked. A prime Oscar over Pacquiao is another possibility however most thought pacquiao couldn't handle the punch of a legitimate 147 lb fighter.
    I should imagine someone has already pointed this out (havent read all the posts) but its so ridiculous I feel the need to comment now!

    Oscar was far from a legit 147lb fighter

    He hadnt foight at that weight for 7 years and had fought up at middle and even then Manny needed him to come in well below the limit, at 145lb! He was a totally weight drained fighter!

    I have no doubt that the fighter who fought Trinidad, Quartey and Mosely would be far too much for Pacquiao.

    I think Floyd always beats him. Dont forget, Floyd fought De La Hoya where he was comfortable, big and strong, up at light middle!
    OK now your sound more like a hater. Pacquiao fought many legit 147lb fighters and proved he could handle the punch of bigger weight class. The question is hypothetical, not actual, so when attempting to make a point put some thought into it rather than a knee jerk reaction about your feelings.

    No doubt a prime Oscar could have put some hurt on Pacquiao. I think it comes down to, could a prime Oscar have caught Pacquiao? I don't know, but after seeing Pacquiao's subsequent fights, I doubt Oscar would have enough solid connects to take out Pacquiao or win on points. thus a prime Oscar beating Pacquiao is doubtful.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    A prime Oscar over Floyd, possibly but I think he still would have choked. A prime Oscar over Pacquiao is another possibility however most thought pacquiao couldn't handle the punch of a legitimate 147 lb fighter.
    I should imagine someone has already pointed this out (havent read all the posts) but its so ridiculous I feel the need to comment now!

    Oscar was far from a legit 147lb fighter

    He hadnt foight at that weight for 7 years and had fought up at middle and even then Manny needed him to come in well below the limit, at 145lb! He was a totally weight drained fighter!

    I have no doubt that the fighter who fought Trinidad, Quartey and Mosely would be far too much for Pacquiao.

    I think Floyd always beats him. Dont forget, Floyd fought De La Hoya where he was comfortable, big and strong, up at light middle!
    OK now your sound more like a hater. Pacquiao fought many legit 147lb fighters and proved he could handle the punch of bigger weight class. The question is hypothetical, not actual, so when attempting to make a point put some thought into it rather than a knee jerk reaction about your feelings.

    No doubt a prime Oscar could have put some hurt on Pacquiao. I think it comes down to, could a prime Oscar have caught Pacquiao? I don't know, but after seeing Pacquiao's subsequent fights, I doubt Oscar would have enough solid connects to take out Pacquiao or win on points. thus a prime Oscar beating Pacquiao is doubtful.
    Fuck off!

    You must be what they call a pactard?

    These are the facts... Oscar hadnt fought at 147 for 7 years! He had to make 145 which he would have struggled to do and be effective when he was fighting at 147. He had to be put on a drip after the weighin as he was so dehydrated. Even Cotto was made to struggle with weight. Pacquiao isnt that good. Hes been beaten twice now by someone who Floyd made look like a little boy. Floyd had the balls to go up to light middle and fight Oscar where he was strong.

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    Default Re: De la Hoya gives Mayweather the edge on Pacquiao

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    A prime Oscar over Floyd, possibly but I think he still would have choked. A prime Oscar over Pacquiao is another possibility however most thought pacquiao couldn't handle the punch of a legitimate 147 lb fighter.
    I should imagine someone has already pointed this out (havent read all the posts) but its so ridiculous I feel the need to comment now!

    Oscar was far from a legit 147lb fighter

    He hadnt foight at that weight for 7 years and had fought up at middle and even then Manny needed him to come in well below the limit, at 145lb! He was a totally weight drained fighter!

    I have no doubt that the fighter who fought Trinidad, Quartey and Mosely would be far too much for Pacquiao.

    I think Floyd always beats him. Dont forget, Floyd fought De La Hoya where he was comfortable, big and strong, up at light middle!
    OK now your sound more like a hater. Pacquiao fought many legit 147lb fighters and proved he could handle the punch of bigger weight class. The question is hypothetical, not actual, so when attempting to make a point put some thought into it rather than a knee jerk reaction about your feelings.

    No doubt a prime Oscar could have put some hurt on Pacquiao. I think it comes down to, could a prime Oscar have caught Pacquiao? I don't know, but after seeing Pacquiao's subsequent fights, I doubt Oscar would have enough solid connects to take out Pacquiao or win on points. thus a prime Oscar beating Pacquiao is doubtful.
    The point that you are missing about Oscar is that he was versatile. He was happy to go hell for leather in his first fight against Mosley and against Quartey, and then box behind his jab against Tito and the return against Mosley.

    Subsequest connects against Pacquiao? Against whom? Please don't hold Hatton, Bradley, Clottey and Margarito up as poster boys for pinpoint speed, accuracy and power.

    Truth is the closest to Oscar in quality Manny has faced post Oscar is Marquez and Cotto. Marquez had no trouble snapping Manny's head back, and Cotto had success when he boxed (and he is slower, smaller, lighter punching, and technically poorer than Oscar with a lesser chin.)

    If Oscar elected to box Manny he would win easily.

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