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    Money. Everyone wanted a piece of Ali's money making potential. Networks,promoters,opponents even those who should have had his best interests at heart used him to publicise their own agenda and garner money and attention for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Money. Everyone wanted a piece of Ali's money making potential. Networks,promoters,opponents even those who should have had his best interests at heart used him to publicise their own agenda and garner money and attention for themselves.
    Very true and very sad.He was just a good payday to lots of hangers on
    who would butter his ego up.There is no way Ali should have been in a ring
    with a fighter like Holmes,he was just a ghost of a fighter in there.

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    Holmes v tyson, how did they allow this fight to happen?

    Ali fought numerous fighters that were approaching 40 or in there 40's!

    WHY SHOULD FIGHTERS NOT GET AN OPPORTUNITY VS A LATE 30'S ALI?

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    Because Holmes still had all his faculties... seriously dude watch the documentary, they put Ali on the wrong medication mistaking his Parkinson's for something else, it made him barely able to move around the ring. Ali should never have been aloud to fight they should have pulled him out on medical grounds.

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    Saddo mentioned it in another post, I started one ages ago about it. I think Ali wore the mustache because subconsciously he wanted to disassociate himself from the fight and say this is not the real Ali. It was sick and sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    Holmes v tyson, how did they allow this fight to happen?

    Ali fought numerous fighters that were approaching 40 or in there 40's!

    WHY SHOULD FIGHTERS NOT GET AN OPPORTUNITY VS A LATE 30'S ALI?
    The Holmes who fought Tyson and the Ali who fought Holmes were nothing alike as far as deterioating health is concerned.

    Holmes went on to school Ray Mercer and have a very close fight with Holyfield for the world title, YEARS after he fought Tyson.

    Ali went on to lose to Berbick, retire and suffer from parkinsons.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Money. Everyone wanted a piece of Ali's money making potential. Networks,promoters,opponents even those who should have had his best interests at heart used him to publicise their own agenda and garner money and attention for themselves.
    He had a huge entourage as well.

    Ali had a great charisma as well, try telling him no he would convince you otherwise.

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    how did this fight ever happen!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post


    how did this fight ever happen!!!
    Heard about this fight, Ali's legs were very sore after it. Complete farce to allow this to happen as well.
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    how did this fight ever happen!!!
    Heard about this fight, Ali's legs were very sore after it. Complete farce to allow this to happen as well.
    If I remember rightly he had to fly shortly after and his doctor who had already prescribed dodgy advice and medicines to him was very worried about DVT and blood clots
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    How did they allow Ali to fight anybody after the Thriller In Manila? I have no doubt Ali's condition today would be far better if he had retired in October 1975.
    Last edited by THE THIRD MAN; 08-29-2012 at 02:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Money. Everyone wanted a piece of Ali's money making potential. Networks,promoters,opponents even those who should have had his best interests at heart used him to publicise their own agenda and garner money and attention for themselves.
    So true. Still Holmes should have told King to F-off. He was Ali's chief sparring partner for several years and watched him deteriorating.

    Then again King at the time was boxing and Holmes was essentially given the choice of walking the plank or fighting Ali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    So true. Still Holmes should have told King to F-off. He was Ali's chief sparring partner for several years and watched him deteriorating.

    Then again King at the time was boxing and Holmes was essentially given the choice of walking the plank or fighting Ali.
    I think Holmes viewed this fight as his path toward the adulation he deserved and wanted so badly.
    In boxing there is a term "the sparring partner mentality." Holmes never had this, I belive Larry would have viewed even a prime Ali as his sparring partner and a step up toward his own pedestal.
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