Basically Calzaghe hardly fought anyone, and if froch did the same he would be 80-0 undefeated!
The way I see it and yes I am pro froch. Frochs 2 losses are the equivalent of calzaghes undefeated record!!
Smoke that! Dig it!
Basically Calzaghe hardly fought anyone, and if froch did the same he would be 80-0 undefeated!
The way I see it and yes I am pro froch. Frochs 2 losses are the equivalent of calzaghes undefeated record!!
Smoke that! Dig it!
He also stopped Robin Reid, a guy who many feel beat Calzaghe. So what?
Not that it matters... But my point is that styles and contrxt make fights... To over simplify boxing is just stupid.
Thats a myth, even reid admitted he lost:
Reid said: "I can't argue with the decision. Joe was the better boxer on the night and I knew I could not catch him for speed."
When carl fought reid, reid was done! He was 37 and two years prior was beatdown by lacy! Reid did badly hurt froch in that fight at some point however and to this day carl say's reid is the hardest puncher he ever fought! So calzaghe winning a close fight over prime reid proves nothing really, and besides calzaghe was basically operating one handed and supposedly suffering from a dose of food poisoning too! Calzaghe at his worst still beat reid!
Reis is underrated though. Reid was rated in the ring mag top 10 for 7 years. He only got knocked down and out by Jeff Lacy and froch when he was shot, Lacy would never have put Reid down in his prime and in fact I reckon Reid would have done him. Froch v PRIME reid would have been a close scrap too...
If Reid was not deducted and faced such a poor bias ref he would have beat Sven.
Had Reid have won he would have been a two time, three belt winning world champion..
Reid was honestly just outside the 10 ten best 168 fighters ever. Go watch benn and eubanks very close fights with the talented henry wharton then go watch reid do a number on him and then tell me reid wasn't on there level! Inconsistant at times but on his day a top 168lb fighter!
Last edited by THE PHILOSOPHER; 08-30-2012 at 03:39 PM.
The first knockdown against Lacy for Reid came while the ref was shouting stop. The ref shouts stop 3 times and Reid is looking and talking to the ref, Lacy looks at the ref, then back to Reid and winds up a huge right hook and cracks it on the side of Reids face while Reod is still being told to stop by the ref! He then goes down on a knee in a delayed reaction amd the ref warns Reid for using his head but says fuck all to Lacy for hotting during a break.
Lacy also goes on his ass and the ref helps him up! That fight was a joke. Reid wasnt looking great but was getting in to ot until that shit cheap shot. Up until then some big punchers had bounced their best shots off Reids chin and not moved him. It was a joke.
Horrible officiating in that fight, Reid did not get a fair shake. But, you could see he was losing it, he was off and just did not look comfortable in there or sharp at all. Wasn't his night and he's done jack shit since then.
He was one tough SOB though and I will always remember him getting dropped and just everything going wrong for him and at the very worst of it when he's knocked down for the second or third time he just calmly kneels there and winks at his corner then gets back up for more.
THAT is a fighter.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
The last knockdown, he was allmost decapitated!
His corner didnt want to see him go on. That first knockdown though started it and it was a foul that should have got Lacy at worst a point and Reid time to recover or any unbiassed ref would have disqualified the cross eyed twat!
If Reid had a warm up fight before that he would have done miles better. When he fought Froch, he had fought Jesse Brinkley about a year before in the usa v uk contender show and then had a fight scheduled with a comebacking glenn cattley but cattley bottled it so Reid was again inactive before the Froch fight. Not that I think hed have won but at
least a few more rounds in him.
My thoughts reading the last page are that Carl Froch would be deservedly pissed off if he logged on here, and read the thread about him announcing his next fight, to find it filled with talk of Calzaghe, Reid and Cleverly.
Carl's put in so many hard performances in hostile arenas against the best in the division that he deserves the home fight, and he deserves a big crowd to come and watch him beat a game opponent, and have a nice big easy payday before Christmas. Maybe he can use that money to buy a ball-gag to shut his missus up during his fights, and he might pick up even more fans.
Froch would have a massive fan base if he was on ITV or BBC and I believe theyd get very good ratings with his fights as well.
He doesnt do any promotion, you never see him on chat shows or anything other than boxing programmes. Unfortunately, as much good as he has done for his career in the ring, he has done fuck all outside of it to get those extra bottoms in seats.
Proboxing is an entertainment business, its in his best interests to be more recognised and the only people he has appealed to are those that know or follow boxing already. What has he done to draw the average sport fan that doesnt watch boxing?
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