Ali-Holmes, How Did They Allow This Fight to Happen...

[Master]

Age is not the issue, it was the amount of wear and tear PHILOSOPHER. Sonny went 15-1 after the defeat to Ali, so he was far from finished.

Everything about sonny liston is pretty shady! His birth, his mob ties, his death....

His record has to be taken with an air of scepticism. So do the ali fight's too. He quit on his stool in the first with the scores evenly matched and the 2nd fight was laughable!

The fights with Ali are what they are, Ali was better.

The winning streak that Liston put together was impressive and genuine.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

The fights with Ali are what they are, Ali was better.

The winning streak that Liston put together was impressive and genuine

Was it?

Willis Earls finished with a career record of 12-15

Roger Rischer 29-13

Sonny Moore 24-38

etc etc LOL.

Anyway, im sorry if i sound off about ali but i tend to avoid the hyperbole and stick to facts.

[Master]

The fights with Ali are what they are, Ali was better.

The winning streak that Liston put together was impressive and genuine

Was it?

Willis Earls finished with a career record of 12-15

Roger Rischer 29-13

Sonny Moore 24-38

etc etc LOL.

Anyway, im sorry if i sound off about ali but i tend to avoid the hyperbole and stick to facts.

Liston beat some decent fighters and was working his way back to a title shot.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Was it?

Willis Earls finished with a career record of 12-15

Roger Rischer 29-13

Sonny Moore 24-38

etc etc LOL.

Anyway, im sorry if i sound off about ali but i tend to avoid the hyperbole and stick to facts.

The facts would suggest he was not only a superstar, but the most dominant champion in the most competitive era of heavyweight boxing?