Team Ward dare Joe Calzaghe to come out of retirement

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Miranda's Trainer Confirms Dawson Drilled in Sparring - Boxing News

Miranda owned dawson in sparring!

[Gandalf]

Miranda's Trainer Confirms Dawson Drilled in Sparring - Boxing News

Miranda owned dawson in sparring!

I've been reading these rumours and it all makes sense now. There was no reason for Ward to be knocking down Dawson.But weight loss and bad sparring. It all sounds like Hatton preparing against Manny.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

I would also like to point out that eubanks career was littered with close decisions:

-Ray close Draw
-Malinga SD
-Benn II Draw
-Collins 2 SD
-Watson MD
-Thompson 1 Dodgy UD! Voted FOTY on both sides of the pond.
-Even the Henry wharton fight was close(ish).

Two judges score the thompson fight 114-113, plus eubank floored him! Why do u think there was such a quick rematch?? Eubank was far from shot and that eubank anihilates dawson.

Chris Eubank = Heart of a Lion. His chin was like iron and his will like a piece of steel. He was also incredibly entertaining and possibly the most charismatic boxer since Ali. A true fighter to the core.

Froch was 35 when he fought ward ffs! Calzaghes performance over a 31 yr old eubank was unbelievable for such a green fighter, That calzaghe fuckin ruins ward! Ward has not come close to putting on a performance like that yet! Plus when calzaghe fought bika and kessler he was mid 30's, Ward is mid 20's! Prime calzaghe owns ward.

[Master]

Philosopher you ‘normally’ talk sense but it is fact that Eubanks fought Joe at short notice because he was due to fight on the same card against a light heavy. The result would have been the same because Joe would not be denied and you are correct Joe was green because he was did not pace himself in that fight and was exhausted at the end.

Lennox would have beaten Byrd and Ruiz who went on and picked up the titles that Lewis dropped. Lennox had unified the titles and he achieved what he needed to and the politics and corruption to keep the titles would have been a lot of effort for very little reward.

[ross]

But 12 years later people still recognise that Lewis ducked Byrd

He refused to fight him, make of it what you will.

[Mars_ax]

But 12 years later people still recognise that Lewis ducked Byrd

He refused to fight him, make of it what you will.

Well, when you fought Byrd, you also had to fight Jesus, that probably scared Lennox.

[ICB]

But 12 years later people still recognise that Lewis ducked Byrd

He refused to fight him, make of it what you will.

He would of had no problem with Chris Byrd, considering Wladimir Klitschko who is pretty much similar to Lennox Lewis but not quite as good dominated Chris Byrd in two fights. Also Chris Byrd in 3 fights in a row had controversial decisions vs Oquendo, Golota, McCline. I seriously doubt he doubt of avoided a blown up Cruiserweight in Chris Byrd, considering he took on more dangerous opponents in his career.

[ross]

Quote from Byrd around the time that Lennox refused to defend against him.

"It's Emmanuel Steward. That is the reason why Lennox Lewis will not fight me. Emmanuel knows my style beats Lennox. Lennox would never hit me and Steward wants somebody to stand in front of Lennox. That's why Lennox wants to fight the Klitschko brothers, because they will stand flat-footed in front of him. Lennox is too big and too slow and he is older now. He is 37 years old. My reflexes are quicker. I would make him look silly. I am too great of a challenge. You go ask anybody in the top ten, "Who do you NOT want to fight?" and everyone will tell you "Chris Byrd" because I am too quick, too slick and I will make you look bad. I wish Lennox had been a man about this. Evander Holyfied has said he wants to avoid me but he has always stepped up to the plate. Evander has never ducked a challenge. All of the great boxers fight everyone. Look at Ali! Look at Holyfield! Lennox will go through the rest of his life with people saying he avoided me. How can you say someone is not worthy who has earned the #1 spot? It is greedy. A true champion fights anyone in the division. I would fight whoever was there if I was champion. I have already proven I will fight anybody, anywhere. I have lost to Ike Ibeabuchi and Wladimir Klitschko. Ike would have been the future of boxing if he had stayed out of trouble and Wladimir is considered one of the best. Lennox was beat by Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall. If I am not worthy, are Rahman or McCall worthy because they beat him?"

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Philosopher you ‘normally’ talk sense but it is fact that Eubanks fought Joe at short notice because he was due to fight on the same card against a light heavy.

An objective view would be to say both fought each other on short notice, steve collins anyone? It works both ways. Eubank had been training to fight Mark Prince at light heavyweight, He had two weeks to get down to 168lbs. However it is well known that eubank regularly had to shed 15lbs to make weight for many of his SMW fights, he never complained about it so why are you??

The result would have been the same because Joe would not be denied and you are correct Joe was green because he was did not pace himself in that fight and was exhausted at the end.

Prime calzaghe wins a UD over prime eubank..

Lennox would have beaten Byrd and Ruiz who went on and picked up the titles that Lewis dropped. Lennox had unified the titles and he achieved what he needed to and the politics and corruption to keep the titles would have been a lot of effort for very little reward.[/QUOTE]I agree, although byrd deserved his shot. Natural fight to make back then, bit like wlad v povetkin is now. Lewis vs a southpaw would have been interesting though.