Romney vs. BO - Saddo's kids race mongering thread

[El Kabong]

But this is a conservative member of the Bush the Lesser administration saying that one of the things that should be done to make Hispanic immigrants feel more welcome in America is to end having English as the official language of government and have Spanish too. ¿The Republicans are going to have to agree to stuff like this and an amnesty for current Undocumented-Americans so don't you think a big announcement by the GOP supporting Spanish as an official language of America would be a good start?

#1 no they aren't and #2 that's the stupidest thing you've ever posted and you've had a few that were WAAAAAAY out there.

That's like saying "Everyone is Pro-choice so instead of being just pro-choice Republicans should gather up toddlers and feed them to crocodiles like the ancient Egyptians" fucking stupid

[Kirkland Laing]

They're going to agree to allow all the current Undocumented-Americans to stay in America and become Documented-Americans like you. It might take them another election loss before they do it but they'll do it. It might split the party and leave the GOP unelectable for a while but they'll do it.

[El Kabong]

The last people to advocate "Amnesty" for illegals were?? Anyone? Anyone? John McCain & Lindsay Graham REPUBLICANS....did that help the GOP? Did that win any hispanic votes?

[Kirkland Laing]

They're going to advocate it again. They've got no choice.

[VictorCharlie]

Honestly Lyle I agree with Kirk on this one. The GOP was shortsighted to ever go in another direction. They can provide alternative methods to amnesty but anything else is a loser for them.

[El Kabong]

Honestly Lyle I agree with Kirk on this one. The GOP was shortsighted to ever go in another direction. They can provide alternative methods to amnesty but anything else is a loser for them.

I'm saying they attempted that before and McCain & Graham's bill was stopped....by who? By the American people who crashed phone systems clling in to report their anger at it....but hey whatever you guys say

[VictorCharlie]

Well I think as usual this is a poorly messaged policy for the GOP. Immigrant labor is an important part of our work force. We have a large demand for unskilled cheap labor and they have a supply. Compound that with very little employment opportunities in Mexico and the effects aren't hard to predict. Deporting 15 million people is just a loser of a policy. There are multiple ways to handle it but they need to develop and message one that isn't antagonistic to Hispanics. Secondly they need to develop policy that overhauls the guest worker program. We need these people to fill jobs and it is reasonable to want to know who is coming in, what are they doing and when are they leaving so make a streamlined system that lets them work here legally. No matter what happens if they let the President get out in front of them on this they will be reactive in messaging versus pro-active.

[Kirkland Laing]

Honestly Lyle I agree with Kirk on this one. The GOP was shortsighted to ever go in another direction. They can provide alternative methods to amnesty but anything else is a loser for them.

I'm saying they attempted that before and McCain & Graham's bill was stopped....by who? By the American people who crashed phone systems clling in to report their anger at it....but hey whatever you guys say

Exactly. The GOP is between a rock and a hard place. They know they have to appeal to Hispanics and other groups, and an amnesty will just be the start of that and won't really help the GOP's situation by itself, but in appealing to minorities they're going to infuriate their own base. Most of the base will stay with them but a significant minority will just say fuck all y'all and not vote anymore.

This is the result of decades of appealing to the vast majority by bashing minorities. Now that the majority isn't so vast their previous tactics are coming back to bite them.