Pac-Naz - we now have definitve proof. Fact.

[Julius Rain]

Come on guys, kicking pac while he is down?

Naz is soft compare to jmm. Jmm had to survive over 40 rounds to catch pac with a perfect counter.

I dont think naz survives 5 rounds with pac.

[Fenster]

I just spotted over a hundred people viewing this thread? Pac fights still get the Filipinos buzzing

[TitoFan]

Look, I'm just basing this factual reasoning on pure statistcal verified data.

Naz had a 100% knockdown to knockout conversation rate at featherweight. That is a fact. Marquez hit the canvas numerous times at featherweight, let alone other weights. Therefore the stats indicate Naz, who was P4P one of the hardest punchers ever, KO's Marquez.

Marquez is a greater fighter than Naz in the grand scheme of things. But even if Naz knocked him spark out, which is highly likely, it wouldn't have altered Marquez high postion in boxing. Fact.

You're playing silly numbers games. Naz knocked out everyone he ever knocked down....... Marquez has hit the canvas before. So you add A plus B, and you get C. Then you throw Marquez a backhanded compliment saying he would "highly likely" get knocked out by Naz... but he'd still be great. Cute.

Has anyone bought that, that you know of?

[Fenster]

Look, I'm just basing this factual reasoning on pure statistcal verified data.

Naz had a 100% knockdown to knockout conversation rate at featherweight. That is a fact. Marquez hit the canvas numerous times at featherweight, let alone other weights. Therefore the stats indicate Naz, who was P4P one of the hardest punchers ever, KO's Marquez.

Marquez is a greater fighter than Naz in the grand scheme of things. But even if Naz knocked him spark out, which is highly likely, it wouldn't have altered Marquez high postion in boxing. Fact.

You're playing silly numbers games. Naz knocked out everyone he ever knocked down....... Marquez has hit the canvas before. So you add A plus B, and you get C. Then you throw Marquez a backhanded compliment saying he would "highly likely" get knocked out by Naz... but he'd still be great. Cute.

Has anyone bought that, that you know of?

I hope not for their sake.

[AdamGB]

What about the Pacquio benchmark though Fenster ? Seeing as how 100% of Hamed's embarassing, near shutout losses came at the hands of Mexican Pacman opponents it provides us with solid, FACTual data for comparison.

Each fighter starts with 100 points.

MAB lost 100% of his bouts with Pac, 50% of those by stoppage.
We have to -100 for the lack of a W and -50 for the tko.

For JMM we will grade him twice as to be unbiased - once based off general concensus and once based off of judges scores.

Opinion/fact: JMM lost 0% of his bouts with Pac and stopped him once in four. We will award him a 25% bonus for that KO, for a score of 125

Fact (disputed): JMM lost 50% of his bouts with pac, drew 25% and won 25% by KO. This leaves him with a final score of 95.5% (-50 for the losses, plus 17.5 for the draw and 25% for the KO. Still considerably higher than MABs MINUS 150.

If -150 on the pacbaromoter is enough to secure a clear UD that saw Hamed do the chicken dance several times, then I cannot dispute that a score of either 125 or even 92.5 mean that Hamed doesn't see at least the 6th round.

[Fenster]

What about the Pacquio benchmark though Fenster ? Seeing as how 100% of Hamed's embarassing, near shutout losses came at the hands of Mexican Pacman opponents it provides us with solid, FACTual data for comparison.

Each fighter starts with 100 points.

MAB lost 100% of his bouts with Pac, 50% of those by stoppage.
We have to -100 for the lack of a W and -50 for the tko.

For JMM we will grade him twice as to be unbiased - once based off general concensus and once based off of judges scores.

Opinion/fact: JMM lost 0% of his bouts with Pac and stopped him once in four. We will award him a 25% bonus for that KO, for a score of 125

Fact (disputed): JMM lost 50% of his bouts with pac, drew 25% and won 25% by KO. This leaves him with a final score of 95.5% (-50 for the losses, plus 17.5 for the draw and 25% for the KO. Still considerably higher than MABs MINUS 150.

If -150 on the pacbaromoter is enough to secure a clear UD that saw Hamed do the chicken dance several times, then I cannot dispute that a score of either 125 or even 92.5 mean that Hamed doesn't see at least the 6th round.

A sober analysis of your data leads me to believe you are correct. The numbers are very revealing.