Pac-Naz - we now have definitve proof. Fact.

[TitoFan]

Marquez ducked Nas and rejected what would've been the highest purse of his career

Prime Nas, who was hungry and focused and had yet to be limited by the chronic swelling problems he developed in his hands would've given Pac a fight.

I honestly tried to find a vid of people supporting your (and Fenster's) theory, but this is the closest I could come up with.

[Fenster]

@TitoFan - You need a video? For fucks sake talk about denial (how many times?)

Here's the same HBO guys confirming Marquez ducked Naz (@AdamGB - Frank Warren had nothing to do with Naz at this stage). All four turned down huge career high paydays.

[TitoFan]

It took you over an hour to take the bait.
I'm somewhat disappointed.

[Fenster]

It took you over an hour to take the bait.
I'm somewhat disappointed.

Well I can't react to things I haven't seen.

It actually took me about 30 seconds to provide the uninitiated with the truth.

[TitoFan]

The truth?

[CutMeMick]

JMM would beat Naz 7 ways til Sunday and twice before lunch...

Don't get shit twisted JMM is a REAL legend based on REAL facts.
Not based on what could have? Or what might have?

He is based on what is.


and that my friends is a fact.

[TitoFan]

JMM would beat Naz 7 ways til Sunday and twice before lunch...

Don't get shit twisted JMM is a REAL legend based on REAL facts.
Not based on what could have? Or what might have?

He is based on what is.


and that my friends is a fact.

So you're saying that talk of JMM ducking Naseem at any point in time is basically a crock of shit?

[Julius Rain]

Come on guys, kicking pac while he is down?

Naz is soft compare to jmm. Jmm had to survive over 40 rounds to catch pac with a perfect counter.

I dont think naz survives 5 rounds with pac.

[Fenster]

I just spotted over a hundred people viewing this thread? Pac fights still get the Filipinos buzzing

[TitoFan]

Forget the "buzzing Filipinos"!!!! I just found the Saddo equivalent of the lost scrolls! An actual civilized argument about whether JMM ducked Naz between Fenster and I.

Where oh where did it all go so wrong?

@TitoFan - you click the reply button and then look for this ABC and click it.

I've backed up everything I said with evidence from numerous sources. I have provided dates, purses, fighters, trainers, managers, matchmakers, TV companies, commentators and journalists.


Your "evidence" consists of one lone journalist saying "Naz ducked Marquez"

Lets put this to bed... just provide evidence of Marquez making offers to fight Naz (as you claimed)? Show me what purses Naz turned down? Show me some dates? Was Marquez going to England?

Ok Fenster... I'm trying the crossout feature. It's not a real crossout... just a test.

Look... here's an article on the subject.

LAS VEGAS RJ:SPORTS: Featherweight Marquez said no to H...


Make of it what you will. Personally, I think it's completely wrong to claim that Marquez ducked Hamed. Turning down a fight and giving specific reasons as to why does not constitute ducking. As I said before... the fight game's all about posturing, seeing who can their terms over the other guy. Marquez had no reason to duck Hamed, something that was made painfully obvious when Naseem faced Barrera and was humiliated.

Someone posted a a few posts back that Marquez wasn't anyone and that the Pac fights is all he has to his name. A bit of an ignorant post, I think, because Marquez was much more than that. He was the mandatory challenger, and I still haven't seen a documented explanation as to why he was never offered a fight during those two years when he was the mandatory. That's all I'm saying.



P.S. - Ok, I see the crossout feature worked... thanks. Also, I realize you had posted the same link a while back. I think we're just interpreting it differently. You feel it says Marquez ducked Hamed, whereas I don't see that.

I agree with you 100% @TitoFan - "Turning down a fight and giving specific reasons as to why does not constitute ducking"

Just like saying a fighter "ducked" another without a single shred of evidence that any negotiations ever took place doesn't constitute ducking either. We only have evidence that Marquez turned down an offer from Naz. You now agree with all my sources that said Marquez had "no reason" to turn the fight down. However, he did, and that's why boxing "experts" were surprised and criticised him.

I only ever say Marquez ducked Naz in response to people claiming Naz ducked Marquez. There's no evidence so it's bogus and silly. I'm just revealing the facts and truth. That's all. I don't favour either fighter.

[Batman]

I just spotted over a hundred people viewing this thread? Pac fights still get the Filipinos buzzing

Would I be right in thinking we've actually had a few new members over the last week or so?

[Master]

I just spotted over a hundred people viewing this thread? Pac fights still get the Filipinos buzzing

Would I be right in thinking we've actually had a few new members over the last week or so?

The Manny fans are fickle and only come around when he fights.Suprised walrus has hung around this long. He will leave when Pace Man retires.

[ruthless rocco]

I just spotted over a hundred people viewing this thread? Pac fights still get the Filipinos buzzing

Would I be right in thinking we've actually had a few new members over the last week or so?

The Manny fans are fickle and only come around when he fights.Suprised walrus has hung around this long. He will leave when Pace Man retires.

...but @Master will never leave because Floyd will always be in the spotlight!!!

[Fenster]

I just spotted over a hundred people viewing this thread? Pac fights still get the Filipinos buzzing

Would I be right in thinking we've actually had a few new members over the last week or so?

Back in the day we had so many Pac fans here (Filipinos) we had to give them their own board. Seems mental now but that was before twitter and all that lark murdered the forums.

The actual fight nights would bust the site everytime.