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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    pac's accomplishments over the years have been nothing short of incredible. he reminds me of lance armstrong and his dominance over the sport of cycling.

    no challenge too big, no opponents too strong... no doubt achieved with dedication, hard work and natural talent.
    Lol. Lance armstrong?
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    Pac is an atg despite what anybody says. The only boxer to win titles in 8 division. If that alone doesn't merit an all time great, he wouldn't be the only boxer to have done it.

    Haters talk about his catch weight fights but miss the point that he isn't the only one in history to do this plus the fact that he is coming from a smaller weight at that time.

    Others want to talk about Pacs fight with Marquez. These two had 3 close fights and that is the honest truth. If you are to say one had it winning decisively than you are blind or bias. The 4th fight Marquez ended with the perfect punch but can anybody say Marquez was decisively winning that fight before he landed that once in a lifetime punch? Now if Pac was to have landed that punch, excuses would be Marquez is a year from 40!

    I guess most if not everything said is just opinions. Bottom line is Pac and many of the fighters he fought will be remembered for a long time. Pac wreck havoc in this decade and gave life back to boxing, enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    pac's accomplishments over the years have been nothing short of incredible. he reminds me of lance armstrong and his dominance over the sport of cycling.

    no challenge too big, no opponents too strong... no doubt achieved with dedication, hard work and natural talent.
    Lol. Lance armstrong?
    Yeah! He dominated cycling for a decade and seemed unstoppable doing it...but the truth caught up to his legend. Whoops! Who knows what we may learn about pacman in the future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    pac's accomplishments over the years have been nothing short of incredible. he reminds me of lance armstrong and his dominance over the sport of cycling.

    no challenge too big, no opponents too strong... no doubt achieved with dedication, hard work and natural talent.
    Lol. Lance armstrong?
    Woosh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i watched it a couple of days after and thought pac deserved it on agression

    I hate when guys get the nod for aggression. Boxing is supposed to be the sweet science, the art of hitting without being hit. Effective aggressiveness is one thing, but if a guy is throwing and missing a lot, I don't think you should win the fight on that.

    Marquez outfoxed him, plain and simple.
    This is another good point but unfortunately the judges were from top rank..aggression wins if it goes to points and manny is fighting.

    Another point someone mentioned which i agree with is the general distain fans have which isnt for manny but its for the camp.

    You cant fault manny as a person as he comes across as a gentleman whether he wins or looses.

    Its the freddie roach predictions and the alex ariza perfect fitness regime and the hundred hangers on his camp on that can touch a nerve..and what is the purpose of manager michael c&ntz..sorry koncz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i watched it a couple of days after and thought pac deserved it on agression

    I hate when guys get the nod for aggression. Boxing is supposed to be the sweet science, the art of hitting without being hit. Effective aggressiveness is one thing, but if a guy is throwing and missing a lot, I don't think you should win the fight on that.

    Marquez outfoxed him, plain and simple.
    i dont agree, i think pac landed more (in more of the rounds) too, perhaps at times marquezes punches looked better because pac was coming on to them

    and agression is a big part of boxing, you have to remember it is a spectators sport and suppose to be entertainment, if everyone fought on the back foot it would be a lot less appealing
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    and agression is a big part of boxing, you have to remember it is a spectators sport and suppose to be entertainment, if everyone fought on the back foot it would be a lot less appealing
    Effective aggression is a big part of boxing. Uneffective aggression is a big part of street fighting.

    I understand it's a spectator sport, but the "sport" part should always hold the most weight. Backing a guy up and punching air shouldn't win you a fight.

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    Default Re: If pac fought marquez after oscar...

    I'm not sure why anyone is critical of Pacman. He fought Barrera twice, Morales 3 times, Marquez 4 times, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley and my guess is fans of those guys just got their nose out of joint when their guy lost?
    Age and other distractions have finally caught up with Pacquiao, he has struggled since Marquez 3 and i'm one of the few who thought he lost to Bradley. It was no surprise to see him knocked out cold by Marquez in the 4th fight. He has had a great career beginning as a Flyweight and it is truly remarkable that he has won titles in so many divisions above that. I couldn't care less if he fought guys at catchweight either, he won those fights. DLH was poorly handled physically and that was his fault, Hatton just got nailed and he beat up on Cotto and Margarito. Mosley has been finished for years. Now it is Pacman's turn to see the other side of the hill. He's done.

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