If pac fought marquez after oscar...

[ruthless rocco]

pac's accomplishments over the years have been nothing short of incredible. he reminds me of lance armstrong and his dominance over the sport of cycling.

no challenge too big, no opponents too strong... no doubt achieved with dedication, hard work and natural talent.

[DavilaJones]

I'll say this though, ever since his KO loss there has been far less visceral hatred of Manny on this forum as well as many others. I wonder if Floyd were to lose, would people be kind towards him too all of the sudden?

As for the original question. I think Manual would always bring trouble to Manny same way Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler were the antithesis of one another.

[p4pking]

You have to remember here that Marquez didn't first look nearly as effective above 140 as he has over the last year and a half or so. If he'd taken on Pacquiao at welterweight right after he was going life or death with Katsidis and Juan Diaz at 135, I think there's a good chance he wouldn't have been strong enough or had the punch to handle him the same way. Not to say it wouldn't have still been a hard fight, but it probably would've looked more like the 2nd(which I thought Manny won) than the 3rd at that time imo.
However, hate to say I'd put money on neither men having been clean fighters over the last few years, so the timing of their moving up in weight is almost a moot point imo. Bottom line is Marquez has Pacquiaos number but not the raw tools or athletecism, it's a coin toss every time assuming they both prepared the right way.
As an aside, does anyone think Marquez could've really performed on the same level that Pacquiao did against the "handpicked" opponents he took on during his tear up the weights? Aside from the corpse of De La Hoya, I think Marquez may well have lost to every single opponent Manny fought aside from him above lightweight.

[imp]

pac's accomplishments over the years have been nothing short of incredible. he reminds me of lance armstrong and his dominance over the sport of cycling.

no challenge too big, no opponents too strong... no doubt achieved with dedication, hard work and natural talent.

Lol. Lance armstrong?

[Julius Rain]

Pac is an atg despite what anybody says. The only boxer to win titles in 8 division. If that alone doesn't merit an all time great, he wouldn't be the only boxer to have done it.

Haters talk about his catch weight fights but miss the point that he isn't the only one in history to do this plus the fact that he is coming from a smaller weight at that time.

Others want to talk about Pacs fight with Marquez. These two had 3 close fights and that is the honest truth. If you are to say one had it winning decisively than you are blind or bias. The 4th fight Marquez ended with the perfect punch but can anybody say Marquez was decisively winning that fight before he landed that once in a lifetime punch? Now if Pac was to have landed that punch, excuses would be Marquez is a year from 40!

I guess most if not everything said is just opinions. Bottom line is Pac and many of the fighters he fought will be remembered for a long time. Pac wreck havoc in this decade and gave life back to boxing, enough said.

[ruthless rocco]

pac's accomplishments over the years have been nothing short of incredible. he reminds me of lance armstrong and his dominance over the sport of cycling.

no challenge too big, no opponents too strong... no doubt achieved with dedication, hard work and natural talent.

Lol. Lance armstrong?

Yeah! He dominated cycling for a decade and seemed unstoppable doing it...but the truth caught up to his legend. Whoops! Who knows what we may learn about pacman in the future!

[CFH]

pac's accomplishments over the years have been nothing short of incredible. he reminds me of lance armstrong and his dominance over the sport of cycling.

no challenge too big, no opponents too strong... no doubt achieved with dedication, hard work and natural talent.

Lol. Lance armstrong?

Woosh...