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    I'm not convinced that his low testosterone is caused by brain damage. You have several glands in your brain making all kinds of hormones, but I don't think that testosterone is one of them.

    As far as I know testosterone production is just the gonads? Certainly predominantly.

    The guy probably has low testosterone from steroid abuse... it's a common side effect of anabolic steroids. In a nut (no pun intended) shell.. your nuts don't need to make testosterone, so they become inactive, you take that shit long term and they atrophy and stop working like they used to.

    'Hypogonadism' is the illness, low T levels are just a symptom and I'd guess that Toney's illness is acquired and not congenital.

    Oh sorry, he was taking anabolic steroids to 'treat' low T levels...
    Or was he taking them to 'treat' the bicep tendon that he ruptured?
    ..except that such an injury is extremely common in anabolic steroid users?

    Either way, he's shot to shit and exhibiting signs of serious brain damage.
    Is this a joke Miles? It would be unethical to allow him to fight. He ends up like Gerald Mcellan so that promoter can use him as name fodder for a young up and comer who wouldn't have been fit to carry his cup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    I'm not convinced that his low testosterone is caused by brain damage. You have several glands in your brain making all kinds of hormones, but I don't think that testosterone is one of them.

    As far as I know testosterone production is just the gonads? Certainly predominantly.

    Testosterone is produced by the gonads, but the pituitary gland controls the body's level of testosterone (how much is secreted).

    It's been proven that damage to the pituitary gland can throw off a lot of hormone levels.

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    Yeah, I know that. But a whole host of problems besides low T levels usually come with it too.

    Only having low T levels is oddly specific and steroids a much more obvious cause. He had 'low T levels' long before he couldn't string 3 words together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Yeah, I know that. But a whole host of problems besides low T levels usually come with it too.

    Only having low T levels is oddly specific and steroids a much more obvious cause. He had 'low T levels' long before he couldn't string 3 words together.

    He has a host of hormone problems other then testosterone.

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    Default Re: Someone just fight James Toney!

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Yeah, I know that. But a whole host of problems besides low T levels usually come with it too.

    Only having low T levels is oddly specific and steroids a much more obvious cause. He had 'low T levels' long before he couldn't string 3 words together.

    He has a host of hormone problems other then testosterone.
    I could be wrong, I'm just not convinced. It's a very convenient excuse. Not as sketchy as taking anabolic steroids to treat an injury commonly seen in people who have trained whilst using anabolic steroids (shit I've just went cross eyed), which was the original excuse back in 05.

    Either way, one thing is certain and that is that the sport and training regime have not been kind to Toney, he is a wreck and wanting to see him fight a top tier guy is unethical and all of the fodder that the 'boxing is barbaric and should be banned' lobby need.

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