Someone just fight James Toney!

[bzkfn]

Toney is a fat irrelevent mess. Why take a fight with a fighter that hasn't taken the sport seriously in years. C'mon Miles, you must be joking with this thread.

I'm going to give you an as a token of acknowledgement of your funny jokiness thread.

[Beanflicker]

Well getting beyond the obvious fact that James SHOULD NOT be licensed to fight anywhere as it's been proven that he has suffered brain damage to the extent where his hormones are fucked up, at this point its a lose-lose for anyone in the top 10 to fight him, considering...

a) If you win, so what? You beat a 44 year old blown up middleweight.
b) He's not a guy that people look good against, even in winning.
c) If you lose to him, you can kiss your world title contention goodbye.

[MMASUX]

Toney vs Chris Areola

[jon09]

I love Toney but the man is finished as a contender. Maybe he can rematch Holyfield in some foreign land for a vacant XYZ belt.

[PaulieMc]

Is Toney seriously still going? Time to hang them up mate, it's getting silly now.

[TitoFan]

Shouldn't one of these 'top ten' men fight James Toney to prove something or to prove a point on the way up?

Let's face facts. Toney has a better record than most of these people and yet he isn't on any radar.

Oh I don't know... I would venture to say that Toney shows up in just about any radar.

[AdamGB]

I'm not convinced that his low testosterone is caused by brain damage. You have several glands in your brain making all kinds of hormones, but I don't think that testosterone is one of them.

As far as I know testosterone production is just the gonads? Certainly predominantly.

The guy probably has low testosterone from steroid abuse... it's a common side effect of anabolic steroids. In a nut (no pun intended) shell.. your nuts don't need to make testosterone, so they become inactive, you take that shit long term and they atrophy and stop working like they used to.

'Hypogonadism' is the illness, low T levels are just a symptom and I'd guess that Toney's illness is acquired and not congenital.

Oh sorry, he was taking anabolic steroids to 'treat' low T levels...
Or was he taking them to 'treat' the bicep tendon that he ruptured?
..except that such an injury is extremely common in anabolic steroid users?

Either way, he's shot to shit and exhibiting signs of serious brain damage.
Is this a joke Miles? It would be unethical to allow him to fight. He ends up like Gerald Mcellan so that promoter can use him as name fodder for a young up and comer who wouldn't have been fit to carry his cup?

[Beanflicker]

I'm not convinced that his low testosterone is caused by brain damage. You have several glands in your brain making all kinds of hormones, but I don't think that testosterone is one of them.

As far as I know testosterone production is just the gonads? Certainly predominantly.

Testosterone is produced by the gonads, but the pituitary gland controls the body's level of testosterone (how much is secreted).

It's been proven that damage to the pituitary gland can throw off a lot of hormone levels.

[AdamGB]

Yeah, I know that. But a whole host of problems besides low T levels usually come with it too.

Only having low T levels is oddly specific and steroids a much more obvious cause. He had 'low T levels' long before he couldn't string 3 words together.

[mightyfighter]

Toney should just call it a day. The Lebedev fight was hard to work. He was getting a beatdown by someone he would've toyed with years ago.

[donnydarkoIRL]

James is one of my fsvourite fighters, but the argument that his re it's is better than most prospects is a little suspect.
He sure has a great record- but not at heavyweight. Most of his best wins were under 175.

[Gandalf]

Nope I am not joking. Lebedev was all about a twisted leg. Toney is a bigger name than most of these punks and they should fight him. If Toney really is so done, then just one of the 10 please step forward to prove it. How about you Arreola? How about Adamek....oh chickened already. Come on Haye, you want to fight short and old Tony?

Someone needs to man up and end it once and for all. Get a good fighter in with Toney, at HW, and see what happens. No injuries, no excuses. A final chance saloon situation.

If Toney loses, then another loss and no way back. But if he wins, then he gets a another chance. This is how Toney's career needs to be, but busier.

[Vendettos]

Nope I am not joking. Lebedev was all about a twisted leg. Toney is a bigger name than most of these punks and they should fight him. If Toney really is so done, then just one of the 10 please step forward to prove it. How about you Arreola? How about Adamek....oh chickened already. Come on Haye, you want to fight short and old Tony?

Someone needs to man up and end it once and for all. Get a good fighter in with Toney, at HW, and see what happens. No injuries, no excuses. A final chance saloon situation.

If Toney loses, then another loss and no way back. But if he wins, then he gets a another chance. This is how Toney's career needs to be, but busier.

Haye vs Toney would be the nail that his careers coffin needs.

[Gandalf]

Nope I am not joking. Lebedev was all about a twisted leg. Toney is a bigger name than most of these punks and they should fight him. If Toney really is so done, then just one of the 10 please step forward to prove it. How about you Arreola? How about Adamek....oh chickened already. Come on Haye, you want to fight short and old Tony?

Someone needs to man up and end it once and for all. Get a good fighter in with Toney, at HW, and see what happens. No injuries, no excuses. A final chance saloon situation.

If Toney loses, then another loss and no way back. But if he wins, then he gets a another chance. This is how Toney's career needs to be, but busier.

Haye vs Toney would be the nail that his careers coffin needs.

Awesome, I want to see it too then. Haye throwing 25 punches a round, would make Toney laugh a bit and be a very boring fight, but the win Toney needs.

[Vendettos]

Nope I am not joking. Lebedev was all about a twisted leg. Toney is a bigger name than most of these punks and they should fight him. If Toney really is so done, then just one of the 10 please step forward to prove it. How about you Arreola? How about Adamek....oh chickened already. Come on Haye, you want to fight short and old Tony?

Someone needs to man up and end it once and for all. Get a good fighter in with Toney, at HW, and see what happens. No injuries, no excuses. A final chance saloon situation.

If Toney loses, then another loss and no way back. But if he wins, then he gets a another chance. This is how Toney's career needs to be, but busier.

Haye vs Toney would be the nail that his careers coffin needs.

Awesome, I want to see it too then. Haye throwing 25 punches a round, would make Toney laugh a bit and be a very boring fight, but the win Toney needs.

The fight would over while Toney still struggled to stutter out his press conference threats.

Put him and Rjj in a room together and let them fight to the death. My money's on Roy.