I can't remember seeing a better fighter than prime Floyd Mayweather Jr

[0james0]

I agree, I don't ever really remember anyone being as untouchable as he is. I cannot see anyone beating him.

A prime Roy Jones or Tyson had me in the same awe at the time though. I thought they were incredible.

I think I also thought Naz would be the best ever and that ended in tears.

[Themantonio]

I know saying this will stir up the shit and I'll get a lot of "BUT HE DUCKED (INSERT FIGHTER HERE)" and "WHAT ABOUT RAY ROBINSON, ECT" but I have to be honest.

I realize that there's no footage of a lot of the greats, and we're missing footage of guys like Sugar Ray Robinson's prime years. I can only go by what's available, and I'm not going to rate a guy based on newspaper clippings.

Putting aside how stupid/obnoxious he is outside the ring and any percieved "duckings" he might have done, taking only in-ring ability and accomplishment, I say nobody in the history of boxing has done it better than Floyd at his best.

The combination of athleticism, ring generalship, boxing knowledge and technique that he had is unprecendented IMO. How he handled a world class guy like Corrales is just incredible.

Maybe someone can give me an example where someone showed better boxing prowless. I hate Mayweather personally but I think in the ring he was better than anyone.

Putting it that way I do have to agree with u mate! Initially after looking at the title thread I wasn't too sure but yeah...

The word "better" or best etc. always can create a stir though as it is open for opinion, interpretation and subjectiveness... And immediately after reading the thread title I thought a prime RJJ or Pac were the two that first popped into my mind. Watching RJJ in his prime, I thought I would never see a better boxer ever. Don't get me wrong, Floyd coming through was also a phenomenal boxer. I enjoyed Floyd v Judah, I thought aside from Floyd v Corrales which really showed how great Floyd could amount to, Floyd v Judah showcased all his skills as a matured boxer-speed, defesne, ring generalship and over all boxing skillset.

For sheer excitement however and a fighter who just brought it every night with whatever skill, grit, determination and heart he had, I can't go past the Pacman. IMO he was a "better fighter" coz as a fighter, the kid fought.

But again I repeat, in the context of your thread, I am not saying Pac is a better figher than Floyd at all! In fact I agree 100% with your analysis!

[Mars_ax]

I know saying this will stir up the shit and I'll get a lot of "BUT HE DUCKED (INSERT FIGHTER HERE)" and "WHAT ABOUT RAY ROBINSON, ECT" but I have to be honest.

I realize that there's no footage of a lot of the greats, and we're missing footage of guys like Sugar Ray Robinson's prime years. I can only go by what's available, and I'm not going to rate a guy based on newspaper clippings.

Putting aside how stupid/obnoxious he is outside the ring and any percieved "duckings" he might have done, taking only in-ring ability and accomplishment, I say nobody in the history of boxing has done it better than Floyd at his best.

The combination of athleticism, ring generalship, boxing knowledge and technique that he had is unprecendented IMO. How he handled a world class guy like Corrales is just incredible.

Maybe someone can give me an example where someone showed better boxing prowless. I hate Mayweather personally but I think in the ring he was better than anyone.

The keyword here is "fighter", Floyd is the best at what he does, but there's hundreds of pugs i'd rather see fight besides him. From a boxing purist's point of view, Floyd is certainly one of the best ever, but from my perspective as a boxing fan, most of Floyd's fights simply aren't all that entertaining.

[Beanflicker]

The keyword here is "fighter", Floyd is the best at what he does, but there's hundreds of pugs i'd rather see fight besides him. From a boxing purist's point of view, Floyd is certainly one of the best ever, but from my perspective as a boxing fan, most of Floyd's fights simply aren't all that entertaining.

Believe me, I don't like Floyd personally and I can list 100 boxers I'd rather watch than Floyd, past and present.

But being the best doesn't necessarily = excitement. Muhammad Ali had a boring-ass style too for the most part. People remember Muhammad KOing Liston and Foreman, but they forget him stinking out areas by dancing around and excessively holding opponents.

[Mars_ax]

The keyword here is "fighter", Floyd is the best at what he does, but there's hundreds of pugs i'd rather see fight besides him. From a boxing purist's point of view, Floyd is certainly one of the best ever, but from my perspective as a boxing fan, most of Floyd's fights simply aren't all that entertaining.

Believe me, I don't like Floyd personally and I can list 100 boxers I'd rather watch than Floyd, past and present.

But being the best doesn't necessarily = excitement. Muhammad Ali had a boring-ass style too for the most part. People remember Muhammad KOing Liston and Foreman, but they forget him stinking out areas by dancing around and excessively holding opponents.

Exactly, the thing is, I watch boxing for entertainment, if it's not entertaining, I do something else.