I can't remember seeing a better fighter than prime Floyd Mayweather Jr

[erics44]

floyd very well could be the best, he looks pretty untouchable at the minute

and as sport progresses it is hard to see anyone in the past beating him, just as the manchester united of today would beat the best of the united teams of yesteryear the best boxers today would beat the best boxers of the past

A problem you will have in this thread is people look at the past with rose tinted glasses, try and tell anyone that any HW since Ali had a chance of beating him, yet there are several before who would have given him a fight

[Beanflicker]

^True. And I'm not even talking about Floyd now, I think he's been on the decline for the last few years.

But watching Floyd vs Corrales again, I forgot about all the little nuances that he had back then.

Recently I said I thought Broner had rougly the same skills that Floyd had at his age. BOY was I wrong on that one. Floyd was a ring genius by that age.

I can't get over the ring generalship Floyd had back then, it really is unbelievable. Utilizing the jab to the head and body, with the speed to land lead right hands and left hooks almost at will. Unreal. I've seen every SRR fight available to the public over the years and I've never seen anything like that.

[Fenster]

He's not the best fighter i've ever seen because i'm more influenced by people from when I was younger. However, I don't know of a single style in history that would have beat him. His mental strength, in the ring, is just as impressive as his awesome physical skill.

In virtually every fight he's in, there comes a point where his opponent might as well have "I can't do shit" tattooed on his nut.

[Gandalf]

He's not the best fighter i've ever seen because i'm more influenced by people from when I was younger. However, I don't know of a single style in history that would have beat him. His mental strength, in the ring, is just as impressive as his awesome physical skill.

In virtually every fight he's in, there comes a point where his opponent might as well have "I can't do shit" tattooed on his nut.

No way, he has loopy referees for a start. Hatton at the time was the man and was on top until that mental obese intrusion. That was Hattons time, he was robbed.

[Fenster]

Well there was 5 posts before the nonsense started. About par for the course ratio

[Gandalf]

Well there was 5 posts before the nonsense started. About par for the course ratio

And Fenster must be sense? My post was perfect. We had an even fight until the stupid point deduction. It was stupid and clearly enough to upset anyone.

Don't be a prick, Fenster. Honesty should be respected and not insulted.

[Fenster]

Well there was 5 posts before the nonsense started. About par for the course ratio

And Fenster must be sense? My post was perfect. We had an even fight until the stupid point deduction. It was stupid and clearly enough to upset anyone.

Don't be a prick, Fenster. Honesty should be respected and not insulted.

You can say whatever you like it means nothing to me. You don't know shit about boxing (That's a quote from your favourite fighter).

Beanflicker, the guy that made the thread, predicted in his first line it would quickly stir up shit, it took 5 posts. That's all i'm saying.

[AdamGB]

He's not the best fighter i've ever seen because i'm more influenced by people from when I was younger. However, I don't know of a single style in history that would have beat him. His mental strength, in the ring, is just as impressive as his awesome physical skill.

In virtually every fight he's in, there comes a point where his opponent might as well have "I can't do shit" tattooed on his nut.

No way, he has loopy referees for a start. Hatton at the time was the man and was on top until that mental obese intrusion. That was Hattons time, he was robbed.

Between this and wanting to see Toney pummeled into an even softer blob of meat, you're really losing the plot aren't you?

[zhubin]

^True. And I'm not even talking about Floyd now, I think he's been on the decline for the last few years.

But watching Floyd vs Corrales again, I forgot about all the little nuances that he had back then.

Recently I said I thought Broner had rougly the same skills that Floyd had at his age. BOY was I wrong on that one. Floyd was a ring genius by that age.

I can't get over the ring generalship Floyd had back then, it really is unbelievable. Utilizing the jab to the head and body, with the speed to land lead right hands and left hooks almost at will. Unreal. I've seen every SRR fight available to the public over the years and I've never seen anything like that.

THANK YOU for admitting that the Floyd vs. Broner comparisons are ridiculous! While Broner is certainly talented...he is no where near Floyd's level at the respective stages of their careers. Mayweather is just a different class of fighter...no matter how much HBO and crew try to hype Broner.

[Beanflicker]

THANK YOU for admitting that the Floyd vs. Broner comparisons are ridiculous! While Broner is certainly talented...he is no where near Floyd's level at the respective stages of their careers. Mayweather is just a different class of fighter...no matter how much HBO and crew try to hype Broner.

I'll fully admit I was wrong, and I chaulk it up to Broner's virtuoso performance being fresh in my memory and Floyd's early fights a distant memory.

I made that assertion based on the fact that both had similar records and both were world champs at that age.

I'm not saying Broner isn't a fantastic prospect, but Floyd was just on another level than ANYONE at that age.

[Master]

Floyd is very good and has exceptional talent but I know SRL, SRR and Hearn’s would probably have beaten him at welterweight. Pound for pound Roy Jones is the best I have ever seen. Whitaker is the second nearest fighter who was untouchable and fought better opposition.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and all views should be gathered but Floyd is so inactive and fights that could have been made which were not for me to consider him an ATG above the ones I have mentioned.

[Mr140]

Mayweather is a great fighter but he would lose to Hearns or Leonard at welterweight not talking about pound for pound either. Reason i don't really like this whole pound for pound thing is because it bullshit only reason it talked about is to make everyone that is not a heavyweight fell better because with out it they would have to rate Ali higher then Robinson or have Mayweather ranked under one of the Klitschko brothers because in real life they would get smashed by a Heavyweight champ and not be the best fighter.

[Beanflicker]

Pound for pound Roy Jones is the best I have ever seen. Whitaker is the second nearest fighter who was untouchable and fought better opposition.

I may even put prime Roy Jones at #2 behind Money May. (braces for impact)

I don't get why there are people who don't give Floyd a chance against Hearns or Leonard. When I say "I think Floyd Mayweather is the greatest of all time", that doesn't mean I think nobody would beat him. Hearns/Mayweather is a tough fight to call IMO. But to say that Hearns and Leonard kill Mayweather is rediculous.

Hearns and Leonard never fought anybody with the combination of speed, boxing skill and reflexes that prime Floyd had. Benitez was a fine fighter indeed, but he was no Floyd Mayweather. He gave Leonard and Duran fits.

[Bobthepen]

Do I think Floyd would have beaten Duran? Yes. Do I think he would have beaten Hearns or Leonard? No, but it is more complicated than a straight shootout.
Welterweight was already Floyd's fourth weight, and Hearns and Leonard started at that weight. I rate Leonard as the best I've ever seen in my lifetime, but I wouldn't pick him in a fight against Calzaghe at 168

[IamInuit]

floyd very well could be the best, he looks pretty untouchable at the minute

and as sport progresses it is hard to see anyone in the past beating him, just as the manchester united of today would beat the best of the united teams of yesteryear the best boxers today would beat the best boxers of the past

A problem you will have in this thread is people look at the past with rose tinted glasses, try and tell anyone that any HW since Ali had a chance of beating him, yet there are several before who would have given him a fight

Its not hard to see at all and it does not mean I'm wearing rose coloured glasses.I'm not getting into another debate on the past vs the now as it goes nowhere. There is pro and con on both sides and you cant compare a team sport like soccer to an individual sport such as boxing. Floyd is w/o a doubt the best and most complete fighter of his generation.