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    Cat Stevens.

    Steven Stills

    Tim Buckley after his death his son Jeff too.

    Elton John and Bernie turpin torpin?
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    David Bowie
    Morrissey/Marr
    Anderson/Butler
    Lou Reed
    Neil Hannon
    Scott Walker
    Lennon/McCartney
    Pete Townshend
    Ray Davies

    Just some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Cat Stevens.

    Steven Stills

    Tim Buckley after his death his son Jeff too.

    Elton John and Bernie turpin torpin?


    Elton John: tremendous composer/songwriter, singer, musician

    A rare talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Cat Stevens.

    Steven Stills

    Tim Buckley after his death his son Jeff too.

    Elton John and Bernie turpin torpin?
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    Smokey Robinson
    Sam Cooke
    Marvin Gaye
    Bert Bacharach
    Prince
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Robert Plant / JImmy Page; Extraordinary songs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinchekked View Post
    We all have our favorite songs and I am sure they cover various genres of music. My question is who are you favorite songwriters, and what are the songs that lyrically wowed you.
    The last verse of 1952 Vincent Black Lightning by Richard Thompson blew me away when I heard it as did the whole of his song "Bee's Wing" . It is a modern legend and connects to the stories of favourite steeds and dogs from English folk singers going back for over a hundred years but it is a truth that comes from his own life time and experience even if the characters are fictional. I have recorded quite a few folk bands over the years and those that really know there stuff all respect and cite this guy as a big influence.




    Here is that last verse

    Says James, in my opinion, there's nothing in this world
    Beats a 52 Vincent and a red headed girl
    Now Nortons and Indians and Greeveses won't do
    They don't have a soul like a Vincent 52
    He reached for her hand and he slipped her the keys
    He said I've got no further use for these
    I see angels on Ariels in leather and chrome
    Swooping down from heaven to carry me home
    And he gave her one last kiss and died
    And he gave her his Vincent to ride




    and Bee's Wing

    I was nineteen when I came to town, they called it the Summer of Love
    They were burning babies, burning flags. The hawks against the doves
    I took a job in the steamie down on Cauldrum Street
    And I fell in love with a laundry girl who was working next to me

    Oh she was a rare thing, fine as a bee's wing

    So fine a breath of wind might blow her away
    She was a lost child, oh she was running wild
    She said "As long as there's no price on love, I'll stay.
    And you wouldn't want me any other way"

    Brown hair zig-zag around her face and a look of half-surprise

    Like a fox caught in the headlights, there was animal in her eyes
    She said "Young man, oh can't you see I'm not the factory kind
    If you don't take me out of here I'll surely lose my mind"

    Oh she was a rare thing, fine as a bee's wing

    So fine that I might crush her where she lay
    She was a lost child, she was running wild
    She said "As long as there's no price on love, I'll stay.
    And you wouldn't want me any other way"

    We busked around the market towns and picked fruit down in Kent

    And we could tinker lamps and pots and knives wherever we went
    And I said that we might settle down, get a few acres dug
    Fire burning in the hearth and babies on the rug
    She said "Oh man, you foolish man, it surely sounds like hell.
    You might be lord of half the world, you'll not own me as well"

    Oh she was a rare thing, fine as a bee's wing

    So fine a breath of wind might blow her away
    She was a lost child, oh she was running wild
    She said "As long as there's no price on love, I'll stay.
    And you wouldn't want me any other way"

    We was camping down the Gower one time, the work was pretty good

    She thought we shouldn't wait for the frost and I thought maybe we should
    We was drinking more in those days and tempers reached a pitch
    And like a fool I let her run with the rambling itch

    Oh the last I heard she's sleeping rough back on the Derby beat

    White Horse in her hip pocket and a wolfhound at her feet
    And they say she even married once, a man named Romany Brown
    But even a gypsy caravan was too much settling down
    And they say her flower is faded now, hard weather and hard booze
    But maybe that's just the price you pay for the chains you refuse

    Oh she was a rare thing, fine as a bee's wing

    And I miss her more than ever words could say
    If I could just taste all of her wildness now
    If I could hold her in my arms today
    Well I wouldn't want her any other way



    It is supposedly about women like Vashti Bunyan and Annie Briggs and the idea of the wild free spirited women from the 60's who dropped out to live in the country and sort their heads out. The song itself is deceptively delicate and the strength of the lyrics hold it together with enough confidence to be simple like a Bee's Wing that you can hold up to the light and see exactly how it is made. Unlike somebody like Shane McGowan whose influences, Keats, Joyce etc are brilliantly drawn upon and used for inspiration there is something very straight forward and genuine in Thompson's ability to plug into the great English Folk song tradition that people often forget about despite the hundreds of songs that are still played from it today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre;1125671[B
    ]Brian Eno[/B] / David Burn

    God the list just goes on and on.

    Havent even touched pure blues yet
    Brownie Magee


    One of the most revered Rock ones that many dont know but all artists claim Carl Perkins

    Sam Cooke.



    Paul Simon / Art Garfunkel
    ali and cooke

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    ABBA killed it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    ABBA killed it too.
    For anyone interested in Pop Music Production, use of harmony and great songwriting craft they are required listening. I would also advise students to check out Spector.


    Ewan Mcall. Another great songwriter. Danzig for the audacity of his work with the Misfits. Mike Skinner of The Streets for all his clever and original lyrical prowess and coining the phrase "Sex and drugs and on the dole" . The Manic Street Preachers for marrying intellectualy challenging concepts with faultless epic musical bombasity. Check out "Faster" for a lesson on cutting through the BS and landing with every dynamic punch.

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    Neil Young
    Jason Lytle
    Bob Dylan
    Strummer/Jones
    John Cale
    Manic Street Preachers
    McCullough/Sergeant
    Bryan Ferry
    Brian Eno

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    must listen--best tracks ever from JJ




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    That track from the 3 minute mark in the last video is one of Joes most epic writings. great tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Neil Young
    Jason Lytle
    Bob Dylan
    Strummer/Jones
    John Cale
    Manic Street Preachers
    McCullough/Sergeant
    Bryan Ferry
    Brian Eno
    Reminds me, JJ Cale: John Weldon Cale

    Is the most under the radar type of singer songwriters,Has written and recorded a massive amount of songs /albums used by all types of singers and yet only chooses to have his own fan base and never went commercial, his style is minimalist though, nothing showy,but all class.
    Eric Clapton made a few of his songs more famous. Cocaine/After midnight etc etc
    JJ Cale is the whole package






    His songs are for the most part hidden treasures from the rest of the world.





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