Why is crime so high in England?

[TitoFan]

Stats say you're 60 times more likely to get shot in the U.S. than in the UK. End of story. No amount of links, partial statistics, twisted logic, semantics, or otherwise can change that fact. And it's no big deal. Yes... there's way more guns in the U.S., so that is to be expected. Yes... gun violence is way more prevalent in the U.S. It's a non-argument, is all I'm saying. You can look at it right side up, upside down, whichever way you choose. Facts are facts and other than that they don't mean a damn thing.

OK, if guns are so illegal/highly regulated in England then why are people still getting shot Tito? And since there are over 200 million privately owned firearms in the US and all those guns are deadly and owned by rabid foaming at the mouth nutjobs why is it only 60 times more likely? 60 seems a bit low when you consider how many guns are in the US & how many are in England.

I think to disarm everyone is as stupid as the reverse philosophy in arming everyone.

If you disarm do you really think all the criminals will hand their guns in too all the bikers all the gangs,the mob and all of the all of hundred of thousand runners these assholes use too?

If you do think it will help I think you are two sandwiches short of a picnic and I want you to tell me how can it will work on a broad scale?

Logically that leaves us with more stringent testing on who owns one and steeper laws in regards to security of the firearm and if it falls into someone elses hands (a family member etc) or you sell it on illegally and its used illegally you should answer for their crime right along side them.

Out here if you have a firearm it is in a gun safe unless you are heading for the range if the cops come around and ask your misses to inspect your guns EG while you are at work and she go finds the keys to the safe you lose everything, gun license the whole lot. Its you only and no one else gets to them ever, no spare keys lying around nothing.

In one word: control.

[VictorCharlie]

Andre,

If Aussies like that scenario then good on them but that would be absolutely untenable here.

[Andre]

For sure you guys arm for a different reason; well we do too, same reason as you; but its a hidden agenda now, if you are well off you can afford the requirements: weapon, the ammo, the licensing ,the police background checks,the yearly fees for government, the yearly fees for a shooting club.

As we both know, thats how they got them out of the lower classes hands,that and offering an amnesty and buy back scheme.

[Gandalf]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

[El Kabong]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

Nobody gets "machine gunned" in America either you stupid twat. To own a fully automatic firearm in the United States you have to have a class 3 license something that is extremely difficult and expensive to get.

How about you LEARN about firearms before making asinine comments about them

[Gandalf]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

Nobody gets "machine gunned" in America either you stupid twat. To own a fully automatic firearm in the United States you have to have a class 3 license something that is extremely difficult and expensive to get.

How about you LEARN about firearms before making asinine comments about them

Like you know anything.

The last five masscares at schools have been tantamount to machine gun shootings.

[El Kabong]

Like you know anything.

The last five masscares at schools have been tantamount to machine gun shootings.

Tantamount- Equivalent in seriousness to; virtually the same as

prepare to take notes

M-60 a "Machine Gun"


AR-15


Glock 19


If you see the AR-15 & Glock 19 as "tantamount" to "machine guns" then that just further proves how fucking dumb you really are

[Beanz]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?

[El Kabong]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?

...They say pessimists live longer than optimists. If that is true, miles may never die he is the human form of Grumpy Cat

[Beanz]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?

...They say pessimists live longer than optimists. If that is true, miles may never die he is the human form of Grumpy Cat

awww he is adorable and just needs more cuddles.






































































The cat is weird though

[Gandalf]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?

In fairness it was a pretty throwaway line. Its simplicity was testament to that. I am surprised it even elicited a response. I won't try to defend it as it just is what it is. Maybe I should have said that there is no such thing as a soul, or that mass consumers exhibit less heart than people who don't have a choice of packaging types, or said in brackets 'don't take a throwaway comment too literally'.

[El Kabong]

I won't try to defend it

Translation "I wanted to get a rise out of someone to boost my ego"

That's the way it works with miles. He gets the free reign to say anything he wishes, and then waits to trash anyone who opposes it by mocking their lack of intelligence or ridiculing their views as "crazy" or "nonsense". It's a typical liberal plan of attack, you just would like to whitewash everything in opposition to you as either stupid or crazy.


You're right about souls though.....you don't have one miles