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    Wages aren't some arbitrary amount. Doctors get paid well b/c they go to school for 8-10 years to obtain a marketable and technical skill and then spend another 2-5 being worked to the bone as a resident. Sure it would be great if more unskilled jobs paid better but these things don't happen in a vacuum. I have no idea what a fair market wage is for a cleaner but I know what I'm willing to pay for my dry cleaning. Increasing the wages for unskilled labor results in higher costs of living for all of us. So basically you could raise the cleaners wage but then both you and him's income won't go as far as it used to.

    It circles me back to if you are planning on a career in a blue collar job and/or depending on a govt pension you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

    I view income tax as theft so I applaud anyone that attempts to circumvent giving up a portion of their income simply b/c they breath.
    There is nothing unskilled about being a carer and yet they are often only paid the national minimum wage to play an important role in society. There are many underpaid but essential roles carried out by people that enable society to function and the gap between blue and white collar skill sets is constantly changing. There are plenty of skilled labour jobs that require much more dedication, concentration and problem solving skills than those employed by administrative white collar data entry clerks. Most people in this country do not share your view of income tax being theft and would be better served by a less top heavy pyramid where government service pay grades are concerned.
    My Wife and Daughter are both carers, 12 hour nights and they work hard for minimum wage,I totally agree with you they are very undervalued, it's a hell of a job.
    I'm like you on my views, we want shit shoveler s but we want to pay them shit , but I don't they
    deserve a living wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorCharlie View Post
    Wages aren't some arbitrary amount. Doctors get paid well b/c they go to school for 8-10 years to obtain a marketable and technical skill and then spend another 2-5 being worked to the bone as a resident. Sure it would be great if more unskilled jobs paid better but these things don't happen in a vacuum. I have no idea what a fair market wage is for a cleaner but I know what I'm willing to pay for my dry cleaning. Increasing the wages for unskilled labor results in higher costs of living for all of us. So basically you could raise the cleaners wage but then both you and him's income won't go as far as it used to.

    It circles me back to if you are planning on a career in a blue collar job and/or depending on a govt pension you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

    I view income tax as theft so I applaud anyone that attempts to circumvent giving up a portion of their income simply b/c they breath.
    There is nothing unskilled about being a carer and yet they are often only paid the national minimum wage to play an important role in society. There are many underpaid but essential roles carried out by people that enable society to function and the gap between blue and white collar skill sets is constantly changing. There are plenty of skilled labour jobs that require much more dedication, concentration and problem solving skills than those employed by administrative white collar data entry clerks. Most people in this country do not share your view of income tax being theft and would be better served by a less top heavy pyramid where government service pay grades are concerned.
    My Wife and Daughter are both carers, 12 hour nights and they work hard for minimum wage,I totally agree with you they are very undervalued, it's a hell of a job.
    I'm like you on my views, we want shit shoveler s but we want to pay them shit , but I don't they
    deserve a living wage.
    People who do tough jobs like that need a raise to match their input and shit duties, better tax breaks specially on their overtime.
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