Tavoris Cloud vs. Bernard Hopkins - Saturday night chat/fight thread

[Mars_ax]

Hopkins struggled against fighters with very fast hands -- RJJ, Calzaghe , Taylor , Dawson all are very fast. Cloud is not even as fast as Pascal. If we see the Hopkins that fought Dawson , B-Hop wins this clearly - around 116-112

Am I missing something here? The Hopkins that fought Dawson lost to him, and looked old in the process.
Hop is basically just there to pick up a payday Saturday night, Cloud will win a decision, Hop will say he was robbed.

[gest12645]

Hopkins struggled against fighters with very fast hands -- RJJ, Calzaghe , Taylor , Dawson all are very fast. Cloud is not even as fast as Pascal. If we see the Hopkins that fought Dawson , B-Hop wins this clearly - around 116-112

Am I missing something here? The Hopkins that fought Dawson lost to him, and looked old in the process.
Hop is basically just there to pick up a payday Saturday night, Cloud will win a decision, Hop will say he was robbed.

I completely disagree with you. I know Hopkins clearly lost to Dawson, but he still did manage to pick up at least 3 rounds. And realize, Cloud doesn't have near the speed Dawson has, and he isn't the craftiest fighter out there. Cloud struggled against Campillo, and had some problems with Mack!! Hopkins is taller, smarter, and I stand by my opinion, that if he shows up in similar shape as when he last fought, I think he will win.

[Master]

This will be a very interesting fight, I hope Hopkins wins, if he does he needs to find the form he was in against Pascal. I know nothing of Cloud.

[gest12645]

This will be a very interesting fight, I hope Hopkins wins, if he does he needs to find the form he was in against Pascal. I know nothing of Cloud.

Cloud is a good fighter, but has one game plan when he comes in the ring. If it works- he's golden. If it doesn't he's in trouble. Good power, speed is decent - overall he isn't spectacular. He does seem to start well but fades as the fight goes on.

[Hulk]

This will be a very interesting fight, I hope Hopkins wins, if he does he needs to find the form he was in against Pascal. I know nothing of Cloud.

He's like a 175 lb James Kirkland, except with a better chin and he's orthodox.

Very muscular, brings the heat early. Look up his fight with Glen Johnson, he was the first man hurt Johnson in a long time.

[bzkfn]

Hopkins has looked old lately but I figure there is a reason he picked Cloud as an opponent. I'm gunna say Hopkins wins a close decision but I couldn't be less sure.

[bzkfn]

Hopkins has looked old lately but I figure there is a reason he picked Cloud as an opponent. I'm gunna say Hopkins wins a close decision but I couldn't be less sure.

[Spicoli]

Hopkins struggled against fighters with very fast hands -- RJJ, Calzaghe , Taylor , Dawson all are very fast. Cloud is not even as fast as Pascal. If we see the Hopkins that fought Dawson , B-Hop wins this clearly - around 116-112

Am I missing something here? The Hopkins that fought Dawson lost to him, and looked old in the process.
Hop is basically just there to pick up a payday Saturday night, Cloud will win a decision, Hop will say he was robbed.

Ya can never put a price on stubborn pride and over inflated ego..that and the belief that he is still capable of schooling his opponent. Hopkins loves money but I think hes that rare breed who will never be payed to be a stepping stone while not having a real plan to win.

[Galaxy]

Yeah I see Hopkins controlling the pace of the fight

His rough house/ dirty tactics will no doubt assist throughout

I think Clouds in for a tough night