Catchweights are becoming an easy copout.

[IamInuit]

How about a wafer thin category. That way the anorexics can join in.

[Fenster]

How about a wafer thin category. That way the anorexics can join in.

As a boxing fan, you'd rather see fighters at a weight that gives one an advantage, as long as there's a "title" involved, instead of a genuine 50/50 no excuses needed match-up? Seriously?

[TitoFan]

What has changed that having weight divisions suddenly isn't good enough? Should we just do away with them altogether? Do away with titles? What would fighters be striving for? The 138-pound championship belt? What has changed between "before" and "now"? What are we to do with the past? So now the past weight division championships are meaningless? All because of the silly catchweights?

What a load of CRAP.

[Spicoli]

How about a wafer thin category. That way the anorexics can join in.

As a boxing fan, you'd rather see fighters at a weight that gives one an advantage, as long as there's a "title" involved, instead of a genuine 50/50 no excuses needed match-up? Seriously?

Dunno man. Sounds a little like political correctness runamok So how about the mindset and practice of guys already agreeing to limits and then packing on 10-20 lbs overnight. Do you seriously think that would stop because a guy is 'comfortable'? Where do you draw the line. Every human looks for an advantage. Sometimes its called being the better boxer. If your not comfy, move up.

If you sign the contract the excuses are null and void. Problem with this 'catchweight' fight in particular is it has zero to do with weight, its a political maneuver. Fighters don't want to lose the payday and Pederson wants to keep his glorified paperweight...for more paydays...after he gets sparked.

[Violent Demise]

You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining

[Spicoli]

You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining

Because the same muthafuckin Pederson is going to continue to reep rewards and pay from that worthless POS, as well as clog up my premium channel air time in the future because some network will air another 'big name' taking that POS in a "Championship" fight.

Call it a non title fight then. If you lose, you should not be allowed to lose 'half way'.

[Violent Demise]

You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining

Because the same muthafuckin Pederson is going to continue to reep rewards and pay from that worthless POS, as well as clog up my premium channel air time in the future because some network will air another 'big name' taking that POS in a "Championship" fight.

Call it a non title fight then. If you lose, you should not be allowed to lose 'half way'.

What rewards is he actually reeping? His last title defense was on ESPN. He's not exactly reeping anything. The fighters and Show Time are doing the smart thing by ignoring both worthless titles. Cuz if the titles had to be on the line than this fight most likely doesn't happen

Muthafukkas wanna go around saying dumb shit like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That just shows how ignorant muthafukkas are. They acting like catchweight fights are something new. They only been around since the 1800's

[TitoFan]

Who gives a flying fuck if catchweights have been around for a long time? The issue is how they're being used and abused now. Granted, not everyone has the intelligence to grasp this argument. But it's true nonetheless. Making weight has always been part of boxing. Someone went to the trouble of establishing the weight limits for each weight class. Like I said before, they've not 20 pounds apart. They're 7 pounds apart. Designed so that if the muthafuka (one "k") can't make 140... he can fight at 147. Does it take work and dedication? Duh... yeah. It's a fucking sport. It's supposed to involve hard work and personal sacrifice. That's what makes it so interesting. But hey..... it's not just because I said so. All you have to do is go back through the thread and see who is arguing the loudest for the catchweights. That in itself renders any further argument pointless.

[Silkeyjoe]

You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining

Because the same muthafuckin Pederson is going to continue to reep rewards and pay from that worthless POS, as well as clog up my premium channel air time in the future because some network will air another 'big name' taking that POS in a "Championship" fight.

Call it a non title fight then. If you lose, you should not be allowed to lose 'half way'.

What rewards is he actually reeping? His last title defense was on ESPN. He's not exactly reeping anything. The fighters and Show Time are doing the smart thing by ignoring both worthless titles. Cuz if the titles had to be on the line than this fight most likely doesn't happen

Muthafukkas wanna go around saying dumb shit like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That just shows how ignorant muthafukkas are. They acting like catchweight fights are something new. They only been around since the 1800's

Haha using ignorant and muthafukkas in the same sentence. Well played.

[Spicoli]

You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining

Because the same muthafuckin Pederson is going to continue to reep rewards and pay from that worthless POS, as well as clog up my premium channel air time in the future because some network will air another 'big name' taking that POS in a "Championship" fight.

Call it a non title fight then. If you lose, you should not be allowed to lose 'half way'.

What rewards is he actually reeping? His last title defense was on ESPN. He's not exactly reeping anything. The fighters and Show Time are doing the smart thing by ignoring both worthless titles. Cuz if the titles had to be on the line than this fight most likely doesn't happen

Muthafukkas wanna go around saying dumb shit like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That just shows how ignorant muthafukkas are. They acting like catchweight fights are something new. They only been around since the 1800's

I wouldn't call it ignoring the trinkets so much as them insuring its future by doing so. Hes still wearing the belt. No doubt some crooked alphabet boy hack broke it down and Pederson just winks and nods. He'll make more future coin off his juice cheat and keep the fees coming on a paperweight belt he shouldn't have in the first place. The ibf thinks "not rated" is a more worthy top ten contender than Matthysse, who has more than earned a title shot but will again settle on some 'interim' bullcrap.

[frasd]

I don't see a problem with catchweights if the discrepancy between prefight weigh-ins and actual fighting weight is taken into consideration. A few pounds one way or another fight time is no big deal (IMO) but if it translates into a 10 - 20 pound etc advantage on the day of the event than there is an issue. Actual fight day weight can affect both fighters either coming up or moving down. 7 pounds might not seem like much but if it translates to a lot more than that in the ring it is a problem.

[TitoFan]

How old is modern boxing? About 150 years old? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

There was a time when fighters adhered to the established weight divisions.
Titles were won in established weight divisions.

Weight gain has always been an issue from the previous day weigh-in to fight time. But it wasn't until the rise in the use of diuretics to achieve artificial weight loss, that fighters like the scumbag cheat Cesar Chavez Jr. made a habit of coming into the ring 20-25 pounds over the weigh-in weight.

[Silkeyjoe]

I would have no problem with catchweights if the weigh in was the day of the fight. This way guys who weight drain won't be able to pile weight back on and won't have an advantage. Did you see the guff of Ward offering Mayweather a fight at middleweight. Go fuck yourself and fight Adamek or Haye at Cruiser

[greynotsoold]

I would have no problem with catchweights if the weigh in was the day of the fight. This way guys who weight drain won't be able to pile weight back on and won't have an advantage. Did you see the guff of Ward offering Mayweather a fight at middleweight. Go fuck yourself and fight Adamek or Haye at Cruiser

That is the ticket. If you are going to negotiate a catchweight bout, then also agree to make that weight that day. Even better, at ringside. That would make "weight" relevant again, because weight and weight classes all become irrelevant when "lightweights" are fighting at 152.

[0james0]

Aside from title fights at catch weights, I actually like them. It gives a chance to get two fighters from two different divisions together. Meet in the middle type deal.

What I don't like is people fighting for a belt and forcing the fight to be at a lower weight.

To be honest I also don't like fighters who are clearly loads bigger than the weight they are fighting for and have just worked wonders on losing and gaining weight overnight.