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    Default Re: Catchweights are becoming an easy copout.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining
    Because the same muthafuckin Pederson is going to continue to reep rewards and pay from that worthless POS, as well as clog up my premium channel air time in the future because some network will air another 'big name' taking that POS in a "Championship" fight.

    Call it a non title fight then. If you lose, you should not be allowed to lose 'half way'.
    What rewards is he actually reeping? His last title defense was on ESPN. He's not exactly reeping anything. The fighters and Show Time are doing the smart thing by ignoring both worthless titles. Cuz if the titles had to be on the line than this fight most likely doesn't happen

    Muthafukkas wanna go around saying dumb shit like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That just shows how ignorant muthafukkas are. They acting like catchweight fights are something new. They only been around since the 1800's

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    Default Re: Catchweights are becoming an easy copout.

    Who gives a flying fuck if catchweights have been around for a long time? The issue is how they're being used and abused now. Granted, not everyone has the intelligence to grasp this argument. But it's true nonetheless. Making weight has always been part of boxing. Someone went to the trouble of establishing the weight limits for each weight class. Like I said before, they've not 20 pounds apart. They're 7 pounds apart. Designed so that if the muthafuka (one "k") can't make 140... he can fight at 147. Does it take work and dedication? Duh... yeah. It's a fucking sport. It's supposed to involve hard work and personal sacrifice. That's what makes it so interesting. But hey..... it's not just because I said so. All you have to do is go back through the thread and see who is arguing the loudest for the catchweights. That in itself renders any further argument pointless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining
    Because the same muthafuckin Pederson is going to continue to reep rewards and pay from that worthless POS, as well as clog up my premium channel air time in the future because some network will air another 'big name' taking that POS in a "Championship" fight.

    Call it a non title fight then. If you lose, you should not be allowed to lose 'half way'.
    What rewards is he actually reeping? His last title defense was on ESPN. He's not exactly reeping anything. The fighters and Show Time are doing the smart thing by ignoring both worthless titles. Cuz if the titles had to be on the line than this fight most likely doesn't happen

    Muthafukkas wanna go around saying dumb shit like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That just shows how ignorant muthafukkas are. They acting like catchweight fights are something new. They only been around since the 1800's
    Haha using ignorant and muthafukkas in the same sentence. Well played.

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    Default Re: Catchweights are becoming an easy copout.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining
    Because the same muthafuckin Pederson is going to continue to reep rewards and pay from that worthless POS, as well as clog up my premium channel air time in the future because some network will air another 'big name' taking that POS in a "Championship" fight.

    Call it a non title fight then. If you lose, you should not be allowed to lose 'half way'.
    What rewards is he actually reeping? His last title defense was on ESPN. He's not exactly reeping anything. The fighters and Show Time are doing the smart thing by ignoring both worthless titles. Cuz if the titles had to be on the line than this fight most likely doesn't happen

    Muthafukkas wanna go around saying dumb shit like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That just shows how ignorant muthafukkas are. They acting like catchweight fights are something new. They only been around since the 1800's
    I wouldn't call it ignoring the trinkets so much as them insuring its future by doing so. Hes still wearing the belt. No doubt some crooked alphabet boy hack broke it down and Pederson just winks and nods. He'll make more future coin off his juice cheat and keep the fees coming on a paperweight belt he shouldn't have in the first place. The ibf thinks "not rated" is a more worthy top ten contender than Matthysse, who has more than earned a title shot but will again settle on some 'interim' bullcrap.

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    Default Re: Catchweights are becoming an easy copout.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Ftr I don't mind the odd catch weight fight as long as a title is not involved or dismissed.
    Peterson vs Matthysse is not a title fight. So what the fuck are you crying about? Who gives a fuck if Peterson's paper IBF title (that should of been stripped) and Matthysse WBC Interim title (why he even has an interim title I have no fucking idea) is not on the line. Those belts are fucking meaningless anyway. They need to be dismissed. Muthafukkas can't complain about the organizations and than bitch that there titles are not on the line. It's fucking stupid
    Are you that stupid and who's fucking crying pinhead? You are.Its not a title fight because of a stupid 1 pound catchweight idiot. Fucking combative twerp. If your pretzel logic does not work just go on the attack and try to change the topic. Heres an idea, read the thread. Shit you probably hate catchweights but pretend to like them because TitoFan started this thread. Who cares about the meaningless titles well apparently the boxers do. Hello... Now you go ahead and continue to antagonize but this is my last response on this topic. You think catchweights are needed in an already watered down 17 division system. I don't.
    Good. You're not making any fucking sense anyway. Just like the stupid thread title. It doesn't matter what fag started it. It has no point. "Catchweights are becoming an easy copout" An easy copout to what? Making good fights? And that's a bad thing? It's what everybody wants.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining
    Because the same muthafuckin Pederson is going to continue to reep rewards and pay from that worthless POS, as well as clog up my premium channel air time in the future because some network will air another 'big name' taking that POS in a "Championship" fight.

    Call it a non title fight then. If you lose, you should not be allowed to lose 'half way'.
    What rewards is he actually reeping? His last title defense was on ESPN. He's not exactly reeping anything. The fighters and Show Time are doing the smart thing by ignoring both worthless titles. Cuz if the titles had to be on the line than this fight most likely doesn't happen

    Muthafukkas wanna go around saying dumb shit like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That just shows how ignorant muthafukkas are. They acting like catchweight fights are something new. They only been around since the 1800's
    I wouldn't call it ignoring the trinkets so much as them insuring its future by doing so. Hes still wearing the belt. No doubt some crooked alphabet boy hack broke it down and Pederson just winks and nods. He'll make more future coin off his juice cheat and keep the fees coming on a paperweight belt he shouldn't have in the first place. The ibf thinks "not rated" is a more worthy top ten contender than Matthysse, who has more than earned a title shot but will again settle on some 'interim' bullcrap.
    Man I expected better from you. Cuz you got things all twisted up. Peterson's IBF title is not on the line cuz of Matthysse. Not Peterson. Matthysse is the WBC interim champion. Which means he's next in line to face the regular WBC champion Danny Garcia. If Matthysse loses to Peterson at 140 he also loses the Garcia fight. Cuz he would obviously drop in the rankings. The only way Matthysse is protected from a loss is if the loss was while fighting in another division. Having the fight at 141 makes it a welterweight fight. And a non-title fight. Peterson's can't defend his junior welterweight title in a welterweight fight. If Mattysee loses his ranking at 140 isn't affected. And the Garcia fight is there. Matthysse is the reason it's a non-title fight at 141. Peterson is goining along with it cause it's paying him well

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    Default Re: Catchweights are becoming an easy copout.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Ftr I don't mind the odd catch weight fight as long as a title is not involved or dismissed.
    Peterson vs Matthysse is not a title fight. So what the fuck are you crying about? Who gives a fuck if Peterson's paper IBF title (that should of been stripped) and Matthysse WBC Interim title (why he even has an interim title I have no fucking idea) is not on the line. Those belts are fucking meaningless anyway. They need to be dismissed. Muthafukkas can't complain about the organizations and than bitch that there titles are not on the line. It's fucking stupid
    Are you that stupid and who's fucking crying pinhead? You are.Its not a title fight because of a stupid 1 pound catchweight idiot. Fucking combative twerp. If your pretzel logic does not work just go on the attack and try to change the topic. Heres an idea, read the thread. Shit you probably hate catchweights but pretend to like them because TitoFan started this thread. Who cares about the meaningless titles well apparently the boxers do. Hello... Now you go ahead and continue to antagonize but this is my last response on this topic. You think catchweights are needed in an already watered down 17 division system. I don't.
    Good. You're not making any fucking sense anyway. Just like the stupid thread title. It doesn't matter what fag started it. It has no point. "Catchweights are becoming an easy copout" An easy copout to what? Making good fights? And that's a bad thing? It's what everybody wants.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    You got a fighter (Lamont Peterson) who needed help from a ref to get his title. Fails a drug test. His title which should of been stripped isn't. Every one (including his mother and brother) agree it should of been stripped. Except for the IBF nobody even considers him a champion. Now for some reason muthafukkas who complained about Peterson not being stripped are crying cuz his paper title is not on the line. Are you fucking kidding me? Why does that even matter? The title is worthless anyway. Boxing has a lot problems. One of it's biggest is having stupid muthafukkin fans who either don't know shit about boxing or complain just for the sake of fucking complaining
    Because the same muthafuckin Pederson is going to continue to reep rewards and pay from that worthless POS, as well as clog up my premium channel air time in the future because some network will air another 'big name' taking that POS in a "Championship" fight.

    Call it a non title fight then. If you lose, you should not be allowed to lose 'half way'.
    What rewards is he actually reeping? His last title defense was on ESPN. He's not exactly reeping anything. The fighters and Show Time are doing the smart thing by ignoring both worthless titles. Cuz if the titles had to be on the line than this fight most likely doesn't happen

    Muthafukkas wanna go around saying dumb shit like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That just shows how ignorant muthafukkas are. They acting like catchweight fights are something new. They only been around since the 1800's
    I wouldn't call it ignoring the trinkets so much as them insuring its future by doing so. Hes still wearing the belt. No doubt some crooked alphabet boy hack broke it down and Pederson just winks and nods. He'll make more future coin off his juice cheat and keep the fees coming on a paperweight belt he shouldn't have in the first place. The ibf thinks "not rated" is a more worthy top ten contender than Matthysse, who has more than earned a title shot but will again settle on some 'interim' bullcrap.
    Man I expected better from you. Cuz you got things all twisted up. Peterson's IBF title is not on the line cuz of Matthysse. Not Peterson. Matthysse is the WBC interim champion. Which means he's next in line to face the regular WBC champion Danny Garcia. If Matthysse loses to Peterson at 140 he also loses the Garcia fight. Cuz he would obviously drop in the rankings. The only way Matthysse is protected from a loss is if the loss was while fighting in another division. Having the fight at 141 makes it a welterweight fight. And a non-title fight. Peterson's can't defend his junior welterweight title in a welterweight fight. If Mattysee loses his ranking at 140 isn't affected. And the Garcia fight is there. Matthysse is the reason it's a non-title fight at 141. Peterson is goining along with it cause it's paying him well
    Come on, you and I both know its bullshit. 1 lb technicality ffs. Its zero to do with weight and just setting up insurance policies for guys and future plans. Novel idea for a fighter, if you want protection from a loss and keep a ranking or trinket...keep the hands up and win the fight! If he or Pederson lost then they deserve to be knocked back. Thats the breaks, for them and fans. If promotion and bodies coddle or issue this slight of hand it def puts a red flag on what else they'll do to ensure the rankings don't change.

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