Catchweights are becoming an easy copout.

[Fenster]

Catchweights are actually the fairest form of boxing you can get. BOTH fighters have to be in unison. One man says he's comfortable making the agreed weight, the other man says he's comfortable making the agreed weight. Harmony.

You can't have excuses after like - "he was weightdrained," "he's small at the weight," "he's big at the weight"

The best man wins. Perfect.

Bullshit. Everyone bitched when Pac made Cotto drop 2 pounds. Sometimes fighters request a catchweight to gain an unfair advantage.

Only silly fans bitched AFTER Cotto had been duffed up. Cotto had NO PROBLEM agreeing to the weight.

Catchweights are requested to make an EVEN playing field. If a fighter AGREES to make the weight, he has ZERO excuses if he loses. Simple as.

Yeah he did. The fight stalled for a while because Pac wanted 144. Cotto took it for the money, then was pissed because the WBO said his 147 his belt was on the line.

Look i'm not getting into a Cotto-Pac argument,* specific cases are irrelevant. I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with catchweights. I couldn't careless if a fight doesn't involve a micky mouse belt.

*For the record - Cotto said he was fine with 145 "I am going to reach 145 with no problem. The last fight I spent more than 24 hours doing nothing. Just waiting for the weigh-in. My weight was 145. We would not have taken this fight if we didn’t think I was going to be at my best."

No excuses.

[Violent Demise]

Catchweights are actually the fairest form of boxing you can get. BOTH fighters have to be in unison. One man says he's comfortable making the agreed weight, the other man says he's comfortable making the agreed weight. Harmony.

You can't have excuses after like - "he was weightdrained," "he's small at the weight," "he's big at the weight"

The best man wins. Perfect.

Bullshit. Everyone bitched when Pac made Cotto drop 2 pounds. Sometimes fighters request a catchweight to gain an unfair advantage.

Only silly fans bitched AFTER Cotto had been duffed up. Cotto had NO PROBLEM agreeing to the weight.

Catchweights are requested to make an EVEN playing field. If a fighter AGREES to make the weight, he has ZERO excuses if he loses. Simple as.

Yeah he did. The fight stalled for a while because Pac wanted 144. Cotto took it for the money, then was pissed because the WBO said his 147 his belt was on the line.

Look i'm not getting into a Cotto-Pac argument,* specific cases are irrelevant. I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with catchweights. I couldn't careless if a fight doesn't involve a micky mouse belt.

*For the record - Cotto said he was fine with 145 "I am going to reach 145 with no problem. The last fight I spent more than 24 hours doing nothing. Just waiting for the weigh-in. My weight was 145. We would not have taken this fight if we didn’t think I was going to be at my best."

No excuses.

How dare you bring facts into this discussion.

[TitoFan]

Catchweights are still the scourge of boxing. Pick a weight class... train properly... learn how to make weight effectively... and go fight. If it's too difficult, go to the next weight. As for the argument on title fights vs. non-title fights..... consider this: Two top contenders fighting for the right to fight for the title. What. They're going to fight at some stupid catchweight, only to have to make the weight for the title fight? What kind of bullshit is that?

[Violent Demise]

Catchweights are still the scourge of boxing. Pick a weight class... train properly... learn how to make weight effectively... and go fight. If it's too difficult, go to the next weight. As for the argument on title fights vs. non-title fights..... consider this: Two top contenders fighting for the right to fight for the title. What. They're going to fight at some stupid catchweight, only to have to make the weight for the title fight? What kind of bullshit is that?

Wrong yet again. Matthysse wants the Danny Garcia fight. He doesn't give a fuck about the titles. He said he'll gladly face Garcia at 141 in order to let Garcia keep his belts after he beats him. Cuz he doesn't give a fuck about the belts. If he did he would of gave up his WBC interim title and just faced Peterson for his IBF title. But he didn't. Cuz it's not about the belts. Matthysse holding that Interim title keeps him as Garcia''s mandatory.

[TitoFan]

Catchweights are still the scourge of boxing. Pick a weight class... train properly... learn how to make weight effectively... and go fight. If it's too difficult, go to the next weight. As for the argument on title fights vs. non-title fights..... consider this: Two top contenders fighting for the right to fight for the title. What. They're going to fight at some stupid catchweight, only to have to make the weight for the title fight? What kind of bullshit is that?

Wrong yet again. Matthysse wants the Danny Garcia fight. He doesn't give a fuck about the titles. He said he'll gladly face Garcia at 141 in order to let Garcia keep his belts after he beats him. Cuz he doesn't give a fuck about the belts. If he did he would of gave up his WBC interim title and just faced Peterson for his IBF title. But he didn't. Cuz it's not about the belts. Matthysse holding that Interim title keeps him as Garcia''s mandatory.

That's what non-title bouts are for. Ever heard of those? Why cloud up the weight issue with catchweights? Weight issues in boxing are muddled up as it is. You got jerks like JCC Jr. fighting at middleweight when he should be campaigning as a cruiserweight. The true purpose of catchweights is to have two fighters face each other when they're at their limits of weight loss or gain. Example: When Martinez talks about fighting Mayweather. There I can see a catchweight. At some point it's too much weight for Floyd to gain or for Sergio to lose. But just for grins? Nah. Call it a non-title fight, like in the old days.

[Violent Demise]

Catchweights are still the scourge of boxing. Pick a weight class... train properly... learn how to make weight effectively... and go fight. If it's too difficult, go to the next weight. As for the argument on title fights vs. non-title fights..... consider this: Two top contenders fighting for the right to fight for the title. What. They're going to fight at some stupid catchweight, only to have to make the weight for the title fight? What kind of bullshit is that?

Wrong yet again. Matthysse wants the Danny Garcia fight. He doesn't give a fuck about the titles. He said he'll gladly face Garcia at 141 in order to let Garcia keep his belts after he beats him. Cuz he doesn't give a fuck about the belts. If he did he would of gave up his WBC interim title and just faced Peterson for his IBF title. But he didn't. Cuz it's not about the belts. Matthysse holding that Interim title keeps him as Garcia''s mandatory.

That's what non-title bouts are for. Ever heard of those? Why cloud up the weight issue with catchweights? Weight issues in boxing are muddled up as it is. You got jerks like JCC Jr. fighting at middleweight when he should be campaigning as a cruiserweight. The true purpose of catchweights is to have two fighters face each other when they're at their limits of weight loss or gain. Example: When Martinez talks about fighting Mayweather. There I can see a catchweight. At some point it's too much weight for Floyd to gain or for Sergio to lose. But just for grins? Nah. Call it a non-title fight, like in the old days.

They are calling Peterson-Matthysse a non-title fight. Just like the old days

[TitoFan]

Catchweights are still the scourge of boxing. Pick a weight class... train properly... learn how to make weight effectively... and go fight. If it's too difficult, go to the next weight. As for the argument on title fights vs. non-title fights..... consider this: Two top contenders fighting for the right to fight for the title. What. They're going to fight at some stupid catchweight, only to have to make the weight for the title fight? What kind of bullshit is that?

Wrong yet again. Matthysse wants the Danny Garcia fight. He doesn't give a fuck about the titles. He said he'll gladly face Garcia at 141 in order to let Garcia keep his belts after he beats him. Cuz he doesn't give a fuck about the belts. If he did he would of gave up his WBC interim title and just faced Peterson for his IBF title. But he didn't. Cuz it's not about the belts. Matthysse holding that Interim title keeps him as Garcia''s mandatory.

That's what non-title bouts are for. Ever heard of those? Why cloud up the weight issue with catchweights? Weight issues in boxing are muddled up as it is. You got jerks like JCC Jr. fighting at middleweight when he should be campaigning as a cruiserweight. The true purpose of catchweights is to have two fighters face each other when they're at their limits of weight loss or gain. Example: When Martinez talks about fighting Mayweather. There I can see a catchweight. At some point it's too much weight for Floyd to gain or for Sergio to lose. But just for grins? Nah. Call it a non-title fight, like in the old days.

They are calling Peterson-Matthysse a non-title fight. Just like the old days

Seriously... hate aside. What is the big fucking deal of just making weight at one of the MANY weight divisions? There used to be less divisions in the old days. The number was increased. The difference between divisions is a mere 7 pounds. Forget it's me asking the question. Are catchweights really all that necessary in boxing?