Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?

[Mr140]

Say this again that Donaire is one of the most overrated guys that were on the top 10 to be honest. He had a few good wins but they were really far apart from one another. Then he fights a top guy who wont stand in front of him and he looks lost i dont think he should of been so high on his rank at all.

[Silkeyjoe]

Say this again that Donaire is one of the most overrated guys that were on the top 10 to be honest. He had a few good wins but they were really far apart from one another. Then he fights a top guy who wont stand in front of him and he looks lost i dont think he should of been so high on his rank at all.

Its hard to know. He fought some decent guys but towards the end of their careers so hard to know if they were past it. I always thought he was a bully, always fighting smaller guys. Also thought he was ducking Rigo and then when Rigo looked poor against Marroquin decided to take it as he thought Rigo might have been passed it.Id like to see him move up in weight. Hopefully Rigo comes over and fights Quigg or Frampton, not because i think theyd win but would love to see rigo again. Only got a minute of him last time he was over with big bang.

Apart from Rigo, this division looks there for the taking fro Frampton and Quigg. Theyd both be in for a shout against anyone.

[Spicoli]

Say this again that Donaire is one of the most overrated guys that were on the top 10 to be honest. He had a few good wins but they were really far apart from one another. Then he fights a top guy who wont stand in front of him and he looks lost i dont think he should of been so high on his rank at all.

He fell in love with the power and headlines. I was never a fan but get the feeling he never really knuckled down and fine tuned to become a guy with solid grounded and well rounded fundementals. When he was loading up bombs and one shoting guys he looked twice as big as he ignored basics that Rigo was doing when he was wearing a diaper.

[IamInuit]

Say this again that Donaire is one of the most overrated guys that were on the top 10 to be honest. He had a few good wins but they were really far apart from one another. Then he fights a top guy who wont stand in front of him and he looks lost i dont think he should of been so high on his rank at all.

I've always thought he was a hypejob also and I think you are bang on on the style matchup. Yes it was impressive when he stopped Vic but the guy leads with his face and is easily timed. When he moved up and fought Sidorenko it looked like he was fighting a child he was so much bigger. Sidorenko also had 2 left feet and terrible movement. Same with Montiel. Stood right in front of him and tried to out slug him while again being the smaller man. He's been on the Erik Morales 122 diet plan because in every fight since then he has also been the much bigger man including last night. I bet he had 10 pounds on Rigo at least. He went out there thinking all he had to do was land the Suzi Q but when Rigo took that away from him he had no plan B and neither did Garcia.

[Spicoli]

Anyone notice Donaire went to touch gloves three times in the first four rounds? Rigo landed low in 4th, ref breaks them, Donaire reaches out to touch gloves and Rigo ignores it. What is that?

[Silkeyjoe]

Anyone notice Donaire went to touch gloves three times in the first four rounds? Rigo landed low in 4th, ref breaks them, Donaire reaches out to touch gloves and Rigo ignores it. What is that?

Yea reminded me of Pac - Mosely. Hate it when fighters do that

[IamInuit]

Anyone notice Donaire went to touch gloves three times in the first four rounds? Rigo landed low in 4th, ref breaks them, Donaire reaches out to touch gloves and Rigo ignores it. What is that?

Yea reminded me of Pac - Mosely. Hate it when fighters do that

Yeah and Shane/Floyd.

[Master]

I had Donaire winning, the fight was poor at times and sometimes I did not want to give either fighter the round. Donaire at least tried and made a go of it.

[Hulk]

It was not a close fight at all. Donaire was following Guillermo and not cutting the ring down. He wasn't fighting with any sense of urgency once he got behind either, not til very late. He hardly threw any punches.

It was a lot like a Hopkins boxing clinic, but with more footwork and more punching power for his weight from the Cuban.

That knockdown was due to Donaire being dirty and clever in that he held, used his elbow a la Floyd Mayweather then pushed off and hit Rigondeaux on the break as he was squared up. He wasn't quite on the break, but it was close.

[Andre]

I had Donaire winning 2 rounds, and I can understand giving him 3.

But sweet jesus, I don't see how the fight was close at all. Yeah there was not much happening, but you have to figure there was one guy who had complete control of the ring and was consistently landing the clean, effective punches.

Yeah if you count Compubox totals the rounds seemed close, but Compubox will often give guys credit for punches that are glancing blows, half blocked, blocked entirely, and sometimes punches that miss the target entirely. I don't think there is any question that Rigo was landing the clean, effective blows in the fight, with the exception of course of the knockdown and the nice counter hook he nailed Rigo with early on.

It's always interesting when a fight like this comes up because you get to see the difference in which fight fans view boxing. I suspect a lot of people gave Donaire rounds he got lit up in just because he was moving foward (boxing rewards "effective aggressiveness", not just "aggressiveness").

Anyway I'd love to hear some people justify a close fight or even a Donaire win. Maybe you guys saw something I didn't. I saw Rigo taking Donaire to school.

Mate I was watching Steven Hawking the other night explaining points of view and how people will see different things due to their experiences and also their expectations.
Our eyes physically only see a fraction of what you think you do, your brain fills in the rest to make the overall picture (we are talking way over 50%) !!!.

I found that amazing, but it answers a few questions as to how some can get a score miles aside from some another (their preferences are outweighing the rules ).

[IamInuit]

I had Donaire winning 2 rounds, and I can understand giving him 3.

But sweet jesus, I don't see how the fight was close at all. Yeah there was not much happening, but you have to figure there was one guy who had complete control of the ring and was consistently landing the clean, effective punches.

Yeah if you count Compubox totals the rounds seemed close, but Compubox will often give guys credit for punches that are glancing blows, half blocked, blocked entirely, and sometimes punches that miss the target entirely. I don't think there is any question that Rigo was landing the clean, effective blows in the fight, with the exception of course of the knockdown and the nice counter hook he nailed Rigo with early on.

It's always interesting when a fight like this comes up because you get to see the difference in which fight fans view boxing. I suspect a lot of people gave Donaire rounds he got lit up in just because he was moving foward (boxing rewards "effective aggressiveness", not just "aggressiveness").

Anyway I'd love to hear some people justify a close fight or even a Donaire win. Maybe you guys saw something I didn't. I saw Rigo taking Donaire to school.

Mate I was watching Steven Hawking the other night explaining points of view and how people will see different things due to their experiences and also their expectations.
Our eyes physically only see a fraction of what you think you do, your brain fills in the rest to make the overall picture (we are talking way over 50%) !!!.

I found that amazing, but it answers a few questions as to how some can get a score miles aside from some another (their preferences are outweighing the rules ).

A ten point must system is what it is. It has a criteria to be met and not expected. The only reason Rigo won was because it was impossible to hide. They even returned to count the scores. This is simply not what they had in mind.The right guy won in the end on all 3 cards and if that fight went 15 Donaire would have been stopped.

[Peter Som]

Donaire just seemed lost for the majority of the fight.

Considering the circumstances, if I were generous then the fight would be 3 to 9 in Rigo's favor. The way I see it, Donaire only clearly won the KD round. Every other round Rigo either clearly won or they both got lost in subjectivity due to how inactive both fighters were.

Simply put, Donaire blew it. He didn't dig deep enough. It's such a shame because he has the skill set to AT LEAST make this a more competitive fight, a more even fight. Rigo pulled out the same tricks and Donaire kept playing into them over and over. Donaire would throw lazy jabs and Rigo would make him pay for it. Donaire keeps swiping his left hook over the top of Rigo's head, Rigo would pivot out, sometimes getting away with a hit before he ghosted.

I'm going to go so far as to say Rigo got knocked down partly because of Donaire's power and partly because Rigo was expecting a break. Because he was not seriously hurt.

This fight was not close.

[gest12645]

I gave Donaire rounds 4, 7 and 10 . So my card is 116-111 . Not close at all. If Donaire wouldn't land that shot that knocked Rigo down, he would probably lose the round lol

[THE THIRD MAN]

Rigondeaux negated Donaire throughout the fight, it wasn't pretty, but he was effective. Donaire simply had no plan B when it was very clear that Rigondeaux's use of the ring was causing Donaire problems. Rigo was not going to fully engage Donaire at close range and get nailed like Vic or Montiel. Donaire failed to adapt and apply enough pressure, by mid rounds Rigo knew Donaire was not going to land anything substantial enough to upset his own ring plan. I doubt Donaire can beat him again in a rematch?

[bigstinkybug]

I had this fight close:

I gave Donaire rd 4, 5 and 10 with the 10th being a 10-8 and Rigor ds 1, 3, 6 and 12. Rds 2, 7, 8 and 11 I gave draws giving 116-115 to Rigo.

If I take out the draws and had to give a winner to each rd id give Rigo 7 and 6 and donaire 11 and 2 making it 114-113 Rigo.

I felt a lot of Rounds Rigo did nothing in and although probably landed cleaner shots, didn’t land enough shots to win the rounds.. He was too slick though for Donaire who I thought would win by KO

I know Ill probably be slated for scoring too many even rounds but i thought a lot were hard to score. Round 5 I gave to Donaire because Rigo did absolutely nothing.

Any case I gave it to Rigo so happy the judges got it right. When I heard the big score of 116-111 I though it was going to be a Donaire robbery.

*So..according to what u posted here, u had Donaire ahead after 5 rounds... lol..DAMN.



Master; I had Donaire winning, the fight was poor at times and sometimes I did not want to give either fighter the round. Donaire at least tried and made a go of it.

*No shit..! u had Donaire winning... what were u on? I'm just asking.. musta been a great high.