Let's put this "Junior ruined Martinez" myth to rest once and for all

[Violent Demise]

You're such a whinny little bitch. Always bitching about Chavez Jr and Canelo and every mexican fighter out there. Shut the fuck up already man. "Has a pretty decent chin" Pretty decent? That statement alone shows how much of a fucking hater you are. BOOO FUCKING HOOOO "He comes in overweight so much heavier than day before" Welcome to fucking boxing dumbfuck. I guess since Puerto Rico aint got shit going so you are just focusing on attacking mexican boxers. Martinez is clearly not the same fighter he was 3-4 fights ago. Even you yourself said JR would KO him in the rematch so wtf are you talking about?

That's what it's all about.

[bzkfn]

I'm actually with @TitoFan on this one. I don't really think Junior did shit to ruin Martinez. If Khan loses his next fight, is it because Julio Diaz fucked him up so bad with the knockdown and shaking him up? Get a grip guys. Mexican boxing has so much to be proud of now, it baffles me how any of you have bought into the Chavez Jr. bullshit Arum has sold you. Alvarez, Mares, Leo Santa Cruz, Ceja, Andy Ruiz to name a few current quality fighters, why do you continuosly defend/support a drugs cheat who doesn't even respect his own father for what he was gifted? This isn't a Puerto Rico vs. Mexico argument (because there isn't one, Mexico is kicking the crap outta PR right now), it is an argument against the absurd theory that Junior's outclassing somehow had anything to do with Martinez looking poor against Murray. He didn't look great against Barker & Macklin for fucks sake. At 38, with his hands down style, Martinez is naturally declining. If he wasn't, Big Bob and Don Jose wouldn't have allowed Martinez anywhere near their prodigal son.