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Tysons best performance was against Holmes..despite his 38 years of age,he showed how easily he was starting to slip jabs and holmes had the best in boxing history he was hard to hit countered perfectly and when larry pissed him off after the 3rd round..Tyson decided to end it in the 4th...Holmes was also never knocked out before that.
Its hard to pin point alis best..tthe liston fights were shady he fought Cleveland Williams 6 months after he was shot and never fully recovered and Foreman really punched himself out and made Ali not rreally work at all knowing foreman would gas out ?Im not going to include Frazier because Ali knew he would win if it went past 12..Fraziers K.o record against 215 plus guys is non existant?I would say Liston the first fight assuming it was real?
Tyson would utterly destroy liston in evry category from skill to chin in what world would Liston win this fight?He was beating guys set up by the mob who weighed 185/190 pounds with bad records...Floyd Patterson was great.....for 185 pounds?Floyd was also down 17 times in his career not to hard to beat for 220 pound liston.Tyson beat bigger guys than liston and beat them easy.
Most top guys Tyson fought would give ali trouble....lets say for argument sake ali beats them all,so what?No one came close to beating prime Tyson 1985/1988...in the end its how he beat them,ali struggled with far less level guys than Tyson did which gives Tyson credibility over Ali.Tyson out of his prime beat 6'3 245 pound Bruno and 6'3 235 pound Ruddock 2 guys that would give ali trouble,especially Ruddock,he had a left hook with more power and range than Fraziers.After those guys Tyson was out/out of his prime and put on to much uneccessary muscle which slowed him down,he became irrelevant by the holyfield fight.
James Tillis gave a prime Mike Tyson problems, winning 4 rounds out of 10. And was unlucky to get knocked down in the 4th round, a round he was clearly winning because he lunged in stupidly and got caught off balance.

Tillis had some comparison's with Ali the footwork and being able to tie up Tyson, which was one of Tyson's biggest weaknesses. I think that fight pretty much laid the blue print on how to beat Tyson.

Tyson in the Ruddock fight was not out of his prime, i love how people make excuses for Tyson. Because he struggled somewhat in both Ruddock fights, just because he lost to Douglas because he came in unprepared doesn't mean his prime is over forever.

Plenty of fighters have comeback from losses and looked as good as ever, Tyson looked sharp in both Ruddock fights. Its only because Ruddock was as tough as hell that he survived with Tyson because he did have broken ribs and a broken jaw.
You don't know what your talking about prime is when your at your peak not age.That pretty much crushes you opinions,they are opinion because the fact is priome is not an age its a time period.Tyson looked sharp in Ruddock fights shows what a prime Tyson was capable of nothing more nothing less.