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    Default Re: Can froch now legitimately claim to be remembered as better than Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    The way to look at it is this, Froch has lost, so he is fallible and there is blueprints to beat him.

    Calzaghe never lost so there isn't any way to beat him.

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    Froch is much tougher than Calzaghe was.
    Calzaghe was much more skilful that Froch is

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    Calzaghe was faster.
    Froch hits harder

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    Froch fights in a much better super middle weight division than Calzaghe did.
    Calzaghe beat prime Kessler, Froch lost to declining Kessler in that division.

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    KO ratios
    Froch 66%
    Calzaghe 69%

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    Calzaghe moved up a weightclass and won a world title. Froch has yet to do that.
    Froch is actually more suited to the move up than Calzaghe was.

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    Froch always is exciting to watch, while Calzaghe sometimes stunk.
    Calzaghe won his bad fights.

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    Advantages for each man in a Froch vs Calzaghe.

    Froch
    More powerful
    Tough and durable
    Calzaghe can be dropped

    Calzaghe
    Quicker
    Froch can be countered
    Froch will be in the pocket for quick combos




    It really is straight down the middle, there's almost nothing to separate them.

    I say Calzaghe still as he always found a way, I think that kind of speed is Froch' biggest enemy.
    Just because Froch gets hit more often than Calzaghe doesnt make him tougher. Froch did get dropped by Taylor, a middle weight who couldnt drop welter weight Spinks or light middle Ouma.

    Froch hasnt really fought any noted big punchers other than Kessler.

    Id like to see how Froch deals with Bika
    Bika isn't a puncher.

    Calzaghe being dropped numerous times and Froch being dropped only once, makes him tougher.
    You say tomato,
    ‘n I say …… it correctly.

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    Default Re: Can froch now legitimately claim to be remembered as better than Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    The way to look at it is this, Froch has lost, so he is fallible and there is blueprints to beat him.

    Calzaghe never lost so there isn't any way to beat him.

    --------

    Froch is much tougher than Calzaghe was.
    Calzaghe was much more skilful that Froch is

    --------

    Calzaghe was faster.
    Froch hits harder

    --------

    Froch fights in a much better super middle weight division than Calzaghe did.
    Calzaghe beat prime Kessler, Froch lost to declining Kessler in that division.

    --------

    KO ratios
    Froch 66%
    Calzaghe 69%

    ---------

    Calzaghe moved up a weightclass and won a world title. Froch has yet to do that.
    Froch is actually more suited to the move up than Calzaghe was.

    ---------

    Froch always is exciting to watch, while Calzaghe sometimes stunk.
    Calzaghe won his bad fights.

    ---------

    Advantages for each man in a Froch vs Calzaghe.

    Froch
    More powerful
    Tough and durable
    Calzaghe can be dropped

    Calzaghe
    Quicker
    Froch can be countered
    Froch will be in the pocket for quick combos




    It really is straight down the middle, there's almost nothing to separate them.

    I say Calzaghe still as he always found a way, I think that kind of speed is Froch' biggest enemy.
    Just because Froch gets hit more often than Calzaghe doesnt make him tougher. Froch did get dropped by Taylor, a middle weight who couldnt drop welter weight Spinks or light middle Ouma.

    Froch hasnt really fought any noted big punchers other than Kessler.

    Id like to see how Froch deals with Bika
    Bika isn't a puncher.

    Calzaghe being dropped numerous times and Froch being dropped only once, makes him tougher.
    Bika isnt a puncher?

    Go watch the last 2 rounds of Ward v Bika. Bika has Ward in trouble a fair few times and Ward has to hold on. He didnt look like that against Froch.

    Calzaghe said Bika was the hardest puncher hes faced.

    Your logic is spastic. Calzaghe being dropped numerous times but never losing makes him less tough than Froch? It makes him tougher! Calzaghe will walk through fire and find a way to win whereas Carl can be outfought and out thought while he plods along.

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    Default Re: Can froch now legitimately claim to be remembered as better than Calzaghe

    That's a testament to how bad a lot of calzaghe opponents were. 21 KOs in 40 fights is not a puncher.

    And my logic is fine, if someone is knocked down 6 times in their career and someone else knocked down 1 time then the person who was knocked down 1 time is tougher

    Only when you consider that the person knocked down 1 time fought much tougher guys with better punches.

    Bute
    Johnson
    Abraham
    Kessler twice.

    Once again Ross opens his mouth and let's his belly rumble.
    You say tomato,
    ‘n I say …… it correctly.

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    Default Re: Can froch now legitimately claim to be remembered as better than Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    That's a testament to how bad a lot of calzaghe opponents were. 21 KOs in 40 fights is not a puncher.

    And my logic is fine, if someone is knocked down 6 times in their career and someone else knocked down 1 time then the person who was knocked down 1 time is tougher

    Only when you consider that the person knocked down 1 time fought much tougher guys with better punches.

    Bute
    Johnson
    Abraham
    Kessler twice.

    Once again Ross opens his mouth and let's his belly rumble.
    Johnson was a weight drai ed light heavy Abraham was a middleweight with no power against the stronger supermiddle

    Kessler is a puncher and it showed, in the first fight when he was fresher, he beat Froch. Froch wasnt tough enough to walk through it and beat him. Kessler has lost a step and is tight at the weight now, having fought above it last year.

    Froch got hurt and dropped hard by Taylor

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