R.I.P Bruce Lee but....

[Julius Rain]

You maybe need to educate yourself a little more about Bruce his ethos, accomplishments and achievements before writing him off. You make think that many experienced fighters on this forum and others the world over are deluded fools for admiring and taking inspiration from a man that you will not credit for what you call fraudulent achievements, but you are wrong. Although Martial arts outside of China and the East were practised as far away as the U.K long before Lee, his influence and pivotal role in increasing the western understanding of these systems is massive and unrivalled.

His training methods are really useful for so many disciplines including non combat sports
( check out the excellent " The Art of Expressing the Human Body" ) but the fact that that he is referred to as the father of MMA and respected by extremely accomplished fighters from many disciplines should indicate to you that the guy could really fight. He definitely went through hell in training to reach such a pinnacle of excellence but was never so arrogant to not absorb techniques from other fighting sports like Tae Kwondo and Boxing (check his out his Ali meeting ) in order to evolve and continually improve.

Making money is neither here nor there in establishing whether someone is a coward or not, just as being willing to fight, able to fight or willing to not fight are no hard and fast indications of bravery either.

Father of MMA? referred by those fan of his and yes he has plenty! But fuck no Bruce Lee is not the father of MMA. Those who risk there asses in the 90's were. Those whos names are unknown to many yet over shadowed by the great Bruce Lee who didn't risk his ass at all but instead made himself look great on films and in stories by his friends. I would credit Gene LeBell more as one of the father of MMA cause by exposing Bruce to a whole new world of fighting, Bruce actually began to make himself look cool by all of a sudden kung fu has a ground game?

Bottomline is if you think Bruce Lee is a great figther, you are dissing the real great fighters of history. This is a huge in justice. Bruce was an actor. I would never mention him in the same sentence as those who actually prove their heart, skills, endurance, pain resistance, chin, etc.

Ok I'm sorry for this rant but I just can't stand these nerdy fucks who don't know shit about fighting and then say Bruce would of whoop every boxer , every mma guy. That shit just really set me off.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

You maybe need to educate yourself a little more about Bruce his ethos, accomplishments and achievements before writing him off. You make think that many experienced fighters on this forum and others the world over are deluded fools for admiring and taking inspiration from a man that you will not credit for what you call fraudulent achievements, but you are wrong. Although Martial arts outside of China and the East were practised as far away as the U.K long before Lee, his influence and pivotal role in increasing the western understanding of these systems is massive and unrivalled.

His training methods are really useful for so many disciplines including non combat sports
( check out the excellent " The Art of Expressing the Human Body" ) but the fact that that he is referred to as the father of MMA and respected by extremely accomplished fighters from many disciplines should indicate to you that the guy could really fight. He definitely went through hell in training to reach such a pinnacle of excellence but was never so arrogant to not absorb techniques from other fighting sports like Tae Kwondo and Boxing (check his out his Ali meeting ) in order to evolve and continually improve.

Making money is neither here nor there in establishing whether someone is a coward or not, just as being willing to fight, able to fight or willing to not fight are no hard and fast indications of bravery either.

Father of MMA? referred by those fan of his and yes he has plenty! But fuck no Bruce Lee is not the father of MMA. Those who risk there asses in the 90's were. Those whos names are unknown to many yet over shadowed by the great Bruce Lee who didn't risk his ass at all but instead made himself look great on films and in stories by his friends. I would credit Gene LeBell more as one of the father of MMA cause by exposing Bruce to a whole new world of fighting, Bruce actually began to make himself look cool by all of a sudden kung fu has a ground game?

Bottomline is if you think Bruce Lee is a great figther, you are dissing the real great fighters of history. This is a huge in justice. Bruce was an actor. I would never mention him in the same sentence as those who actually prove their heart, skills, endurance, pain resistance, chin, etc.

Ok I'm sorry for this rant but I just can't stand these nerdy fucks who don't know shit about fighting and then say Bruce would of whoop every boxer , every mma guy. That shit just really set me off.

no one here has claimed that you nonce

and when you've cross trained in JKD, MT, Kickboxing, Boxing, Jujitsu, MMA, Silat, Kali, we can have chat about whether JKD is a 'philosophy' or not

[Fenster]

To be fair, back in the day, there was a fantastic thread on here (about 10 plus pages) about Bruce Lee whooping everyone in real life.

Thread's so old I can't find it (the good old days)

[Julius Rain]

You maybe need to educate yourself a little more about Bruce his ethos, accomplishments and achievements before writing him off. You make think that many experienced fighters on this forum and others the world over are deluded fools for admiring and taking inspiration from a man that you will not credit for what you call fraudulent achievements, but you are wrong. Although Martial arts outside of China and the East were practised as far away as the U.K long before Lee, his influence and pivotal role in increasing the western understanding of these systems is massive and unrivalled.

His training methods are really useful for so many disciplines including non combat sports
( check out the excellent " The Art of Expressing the Human Body" ) but the fact that that he is referred to as the father of MMA and respected by extremely accomplished fighters from many disciplines should indicate to you that the guy could really fight. He definitely went through hell in training to reach such a pinnacle of excellence but was never so arrogant to not absorb techniques from other fighting sports like Tae Kwondo and Boxing (check his out his Ali meeting ) in order to evolve and continually improve.

Making money is neither here nor there in establishing whether someone is a coward or not, just as being willing to fight, able to fight or willing to not fight are no hard and fast indications of bravery either.

Father of MMA? referred by those fan of his and yes he has plenty! But fuck no Bruce Lee is not the father of MMA. Those who risk there asses in the 90's were. Those whos names are unknown to many yet over shadowed by the great Bruce Lee who didn't risk his ass at all but instead made himself look great on films and in stories by his friends. I would credit Gene LeBell more as one of the father of MMA cause by exposing Bruce to a whole new world of fighting, Bruce actually began to make himself look cool by all of a sudden kung fu has a ground game?

Bottomline is if you think Bruce Lee is a great figther, you are dissing the real great fighters of history. This is a huge in justice. Bruce was an actor. I would never mention him in the same sentence as those who actually prove their heart, skills, endurance, pain resistance, chin, etc.

Ok I'm sorry for this rant but I just can't stand these nerdy fucks who don't know shit about fighting and then say Bruce would of whoop every boxer , every mma guy. That shit just really set me off.

no one here has claimed that you nonce

and when you've cross trained in JKD, MT, Kickboxing, Boxing, Jujitsu, MMA, Silat, Kali, we can have chat about whether JKD is a 'philosophy' or not

I'm not that one saying JKD is a philosophy. People who claimed to have studied it says so themselves. Dan Inosanto, a direct student of Bruce Lee said so as well.

BTW, I train in boxing, muay thai, jujitsu and wrestling which is the big four effective style that equals modern MMA! When I was younger I even did Kung Fu, Ninjutsu, Karate but the older I got the more I realize how it is all about preserving tradition rather than focusing on effectiveness.

[bradlee180]

Bruce Lee shat bigger than you!!!

[Julius Rain]

Bruce Lee shat bigger than you!!!

I hate you all for thinking this man is greater than what he actually proved. To me he is an actor, he could of got his chin check and put to sleep just like anybody else.

[bradlee180]

Bruce Lee shat bigger than you!!!

I hate you all for thinking this man is greater than what he actually proved. To me he is an actor, he could of got his chin check and put to sleep just like anybody else.

Jeez, can't you take a joke?!

[Andre]

Bruce Lee shat bigger than you!!!

I hate you all for thinking this man is greater than what he actually proved. To me he is an actor, he could of got his chin check and put to sleep just like anybody else.

Jeez, can't you take a joke?!

No from memory.