R.I.P Bruce Lee but....

[SugarBoxing]

It sickens me, that so many deluded fools give this guy so much credit for such fraudulent accomplishments. I have a lot of respect for REAL fighters and it just pisses me off when an actor like Bruce Lee is known to be such a great fighter but never went through the hell real fighters go through in training and in real fights.

Am I alone in this? I can't stand this nonsense with traditional martial arts and all the money they are making on cowards who never get into real fight or never even go through the hell encountered in training like a pro fighter.

You comparing apples to oranges. It is all about being special, not just successful. Bruce Lee, Sugar Ray, Ali, Tyson are SPECIAL, because they went beyond the fundamentals of the sport. For instance, regardless all success, Oscar De La Hoya is it just a very good and successful fighter, but there is nothing special about him you can associate his name with. His far less successful opponent, Ike Quatery, would be remember for Bazooka jab, which did make him special.

[Julius Rain]

It sickens me, that so many deluded fools give this guy so much credit for such fraudulent accomplishments. I have a lot of respect for REAL fighters and it just pisses me off when an actor like Bruce Lee is known to be such a great fighter but never went through the hell real fighters go through in training and in real fights.

Am I alone in this? I can't stand this nonsense with traditional martial arts and all the money they are making on cowards who never get into real fight or never even go through the hell encountered in training like a pro fighter.

You comparing apples to oranges. It is all about being special, not just successful. Bruce Lee, Sugar Ray, Ali, Tyson are SPECIAL, because they went beyond the fundamentals of the sport. For instance, regardless all success, Oscar De La Hoya is it just a very good and successful fighter, but there is nothing special about him you can associate his name with. His far less successful opponent, Ike Quatery, would be remember for Bazooka jab, which did make him special.

So how the fuck was Bruce Lee special? Because you guys are ignorant and never seen an asian guy kick like that or seen a guy ripped and fast in that era? Did you guys know, they would take frames out of Bruce Lee films to make him seem even faster with the crappy ass cameras they had back then?

[SugarBoxing]

It sickens me, that so many deluded fools give this guy so much credit for such fraudulent accomplishments. I have a lot of respect for REAL fighters and it just pisses me off when an actor like Bruce Lee is known to be such a great fighter but never went through the hell real fighters go through in training and in real fights.

Am I alone in this? I can't stand this nonsense with traditional martial arts and all the money they are making on cowards who never get into real fight or never even go through the hell encountered in training like a pro fighter.

You comparing apples to oranges. It is all about being special, not just successful. Bruce Lee, Sugar Ray, Ali, Tyson are SPECIAL, because they went beyond the fundamentals of the sport. For instance, regardless all success, Oscar De La Hoya is it just a very good and successful fighter, but there is nothing special about him you can associate his name with. His far less successful opponent, Ike Quatery, would be remember for Bazooka jab, which did make him special.

So how the fuck was Bruce Lee special? Because you guys are ignorant and never seen an asian guy kick like that or seen a guy ripped and fast in that era? Did you guys know, they would take frames out of Bruce Lee films to make him seem even faster with the crappy ass cameras they had back then?

I am not a big fan of Bruce Lee, but Sugar Ray and Manny are:

[Julius Rain]

It sickens me, that so many deluded fools give this guy so much credit for such fraudulent accomplishments. I have a lot of respect for REAL fighters and it just pisses me off when an actor like Bruce Lee is known to be such a great fighter but never went through the hell real fighters go through in training and in real fights.

Am I alone in this? I can't stand this nonsense with traditional martial arts and all the money they are making on cowards who never get into real fight or never even go through the hell encountered in training like a pro fighter.

You comparing apples to oranges. It is all about being special, not just successful. Bruce Lee, Sugar Ray, Ali, Tyson are SPECIAL, because they went beyond the fundamentals of the sport. For instance, regardless all success, Oscar De La Hoya is it just a very good and successful fighter, but there is nothing special about him you can associate his name with. His far less successful opponent, Ike Quatery, would be remember for Bazooka jab, which did make him special.

So how the fuck was Bruce Lee special? Because you guys are ignorant and never seen an asian guy kick like that or seen a guy ripped and fast in that era? Did you guys know, they would take frames out of Bruce Lee films to make him seem even faster with the crappy ass cameras they had back then?

I am not a big fan of Bruce Lee, but Sugar Ray and Manny are:

I would being saying the same thing Sugar Ray as a kid before I realize how not effective kung fu is and how Bruce was a fighting genius proven only in movies and demo films.

Sugar Ray is def special, proven by a real pro record. Its sad he must of thought Bruce would whoop his ass, even though he didn't realize if he hit Bruce on his chin, Bruce would likely be on the floor asleep. This is how sad it is imo. Thanks for sharing that, that was sad. A real great fighter giving an unproven icon all the credit in the world and Bruce never had to take a punch from anybody relevant to obtain it. How many bad ass boxer did Ray take punches from to get his credit? Fuck this is sad. Like I said though I expect a lot of people to be fans of Bruce Lee, even I am, we all watch him growing up, shit I started a thread here long ago about visiting Bruce in the cemetery. Maybe I'm not getting my point across well enough on why I don't consider him a fighter. To me its sad, even Sugar Ray still drinking that coolaid....I spitted that shit out when I realize what was really effective and not.

[Tyke72]

While one could agree that Bruce never proved himself a fighter, we cannot argue other qualities he brought to the fight game. He was a massive advocate of weight training. Using methods outside the traditional skipping, running 5 miles a day. The problem ( for a separate thread) is boxers & other sports personnel is, they take ancillary training more serious than the real job at hand. I personally admire the guy, a class act. Oh, an by the way. He was responsible for some of the greatest quotes of all times!!

[Andre]

He did come out with nice expressions to explain things, but he learned them from Taoists and Zen philosophy then reshaped them to suit his combat theory.

The truth exists somewhere in between the extremes.
To rub out anything totally and say its total shit is an extreme and that attracts the opposite to it, which is also an extreme point, the two extremes support each others point of view. That is what this thread is about.

[Master]

Next you will say Van Dam and Seigal can,t fight too.

[Andre]

Clint Eastwood isnt a real horse rider he would never measure up against a jockey.

[greynotsoold]

Clint Eastwood isnt a real horse rider he would never measure up against a jockey.

And Billy the Kid would have smoked him down in a real gunfight.

[Beanz]

Next you will say Van Dam and Seigal can,t fight too.

They sure as hell can't act.

[imp]

The biggest surprise when growing up after watching do many bruce lee films was thinking he was this 6foot powerhouse..only to realise he was a light welterweight type frame guy!

But the skills he had and influence he had changed the world for the good..

[KickMuck]

I am fast and i have a strong jaw, I would be fast enough to grab Bruce Lee and bite his nose off, so that makes me harder than Mr Lee.

Silly convo