Does anyone think George Zimmerman is guilty of murder?

[Beanz]

You're at a bar and some guy shoves you.
You're armed, and you feel threatened, so you shoot the guy dead.
How should that be legally handled?

There's always the opportunity to remove yourself from that situation UNLESS someone is sitting on top of you and pounding your head into the ground....then yes you can shoot him without repercussion because (and follow me closely on this part) YOUR LIFE WAS IN DANGER.

Zimmerman was getting the shit kicked out of him as one can tell by the broken nose and how the back of his head was fucked up.


But hey what do I know, I'm smart enough not to get in fights

The guy at the bar felt... (and follow ME closely on this part) HIS LIFE WAS IN DANGER.
AND...... he's got a good lawyer to prove it.

There was only one exit... the guy who pushed him was 6'-8" 380 pounds, and had a tattoo of a dead man who looked just like him. He also took a couple of steps toward him, and he saw his life flash before his eyes.

NOW can he shoot him?




By the way, is this the part where Greenbeanz butts into the conversation and says that I'm condescending?
'Cause the condescending part begins in post # 10, if we're keeping records here.

Look this is a forum. That means anybody is entitled to express their views in a thread. If you want an exclusive conversation use the chat function, or private message Lyle, but don't accuse me of butting into a conversation when I have not even commented. Also don't assume what I am going to say because that is ungracious, rude and downright condescending in and of itself. It was actually Andre who started the original thread back here http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ight=zimmerman

[TitoFan]

You're at a bar and some guy shoves you.
You're armed, and you feel threatened, so you shoot the guy dead.
How should that be legally handled?

There's always the opportunity to remove yourself from that situation UNLESS someone is sitting on top of you and pounding your head into the ground....then yes you can shoot him without repercussion because (and follow me closely on this part) YOUR LIFE WAS IN DANGER.

Zimmerman was getting the shit kicked out of him as one can tell by the broken nose and how the back of his head was fucked up.


But hey what do I know, I'm smart enough not to get in fights

The guy at the bar felt... (and follow ME closely on this part) HIS LIFE WAS IN DANGER.
AND...... he's got a good lawyer to prove it.

There was only one exit... the guy who pushed him was 6'-8" 380 pounds, and had a tattoo of a dead man who looked just like him. He also took a couple of steps toward him, and he saw his life flash before his eyes.

NOW can he shoot him?




By the way, is this the part where Greenbeanz butts into the conversation and says that I'm condescending?
'Cause the condescending part begins in post # 10, if we're keeping records here.

Look this is a forum. That means anybody is entitled to express their views in a thread. If you want an exclusive conversation use the chat function, or private message Lyle, but don't accuse me of butting into a conversation when I have not even commented. Also don't assume what I am going to say because that is ungracious, rude and downright condescending in and of itself. It was actually Andre who started the original thread back here http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ight=zimmerman

No big deal... just pointing out some facts.

Months ago you jumped all over my ass over some supposedly condescending comments I made to Lyle on a thread I began about a white college girl claiming "white discrimination". That created a big huge nasty mess between you and I. Now I'm just pointing out that it was Lyle who began the condescending (or sarcastic, patronizing/sing)... whatever you want to call it... in post 10. I ignored the comment, choosing instead to respond to a more seriously minded post by Beanflicker. Lyle jumps in and patronizes me yet again (post 13). It's all good.... eventually Lyle and I get to have a normal conversation. TBH, Lyle-TitoFan arguments are relatively benign and short-lived. At least I don't take them too seriously.

But my point is: If you're going to point out unprovoked patronizing/sing, do it across the board... not just when I do it.

But again... no big deal. Really.

[El Kabong]

I'm sure if you keep complaining about it something good will happen

[TitoFan]

I'm sure if you keep complaining about it something good will happen

You mean like you'll be walking down the street and get hit in the head with an obnoxious-eraser brick?

[TitoFan]

Except you'll probably get online, and post that Obama threw it.

[El Kabong]

I'm sure if you keep complaining about it something good will happen

You mean like you'll be walking down the street and get hit in the head with an obnoxious-eraser brick?

No I mean if you keep randomly bringing up your beef with Greenbeanz (especially in threads where he wasn't even posting) then you're just inviting him to start another flame war with you....which I'm guessing you enjoy the attention you get from these little verbal scuffles seeing how you're taking a dig at me here and in the following post as well....Good work, you're slowly learning to be a troll

[TitoFan]

I'm sure if you keep complaining about it something good will happen

You mean like you'll be walking down the street and get hit in the head with an obnoxious-eraser brick?

No I mean if you keep randomly bringing up your beef with Greenbeanz (especially in threads where he wasn't even posting) then you're just inviting him to start another flame war with you....which I'm guessing you enjoy the attention you get from these little verbal scuffles seeing how you're taking a dig at me here and in the following post as well....Good work, you're slowly learning to be a troll

Who started the condescending shit on this thread, asshole?
Take a good guess.

Need some help?
Look back through the thread.
You responded to a post of mine directed at someone else with your patented sarcasm.

But no-o-o-o-o-o-o-o......
You'd rather keep up your obnoxious shit and continue it, until someone slaps your ass down.

[greynotsoold]

We had an incident near here last week where a man returned to his home, in an area a bit off the path, and found a strange car in his drive and his front door kicked in. He took his pistol from his glovebox, went inside as was confronted by a guy with a pillowcase full of the homeowner's property. He shot the man dead. It turned out that that man had already broken into and robbed several other homes in that area.
What I couldn't believe was the response. Rather, the number of people saying that the homeowner had an 'obligation' not to enter his house- thereby provoking a confrontation- and that he should have locked himself in his vehicle and called the police. That got shouted down pretty quickly- this is Montana, after all- but I think we have let to many Californians move here.

[El Kabong]

Who started the condescending shit on this thread, asshole?
Take a good guess.

Need some help?
Look back through the thread.
You responded to a post of mine directed at someone else with your patented sarcasm.

But no-o-o-o-o-o-o-o......
You'd rather keep up your obnoxious shit and continue it, until someone slaps your ass down.

I asked a simple question which you ignored....did you just now go back and get irritated about it? And the whole pushing thing....the fuck was that about "If someone pushes you can you shoot them?"....when I read posts like that I wonder if you have difficulty understanding when someone has an opportunity to remove themselves from a situation which could be dangerous. In the case of George Zimmerman, he apparently wasn't offered such a window to leave without firing a shot.





Doesn't look like it was just something as innocent and avoidable as a "push" to me. My main gripe is with the media coverage which has looked like this



To be honest I'm not affected either way guilty, not guilty whatever, but I'm also not going to parse out every single time when using a gun is justified especially to someone hell bent on gun control.

[Andre]

These two witnesses have a side to it regarding when the crying stopped.

Sad stuff to hear.