Does anyone think George Zimmerman is guilty of murder?

[El Kabong]

I'm sure if you keep complaining about it something good will happen

[TitoFan]

I'm sure if you keep complaining about it something good will happen

You mean like you'll be walking down the street and get hit in the head with an obnoxious-eraser brick?

[TitoFan]

Except you'll probably get online, and post that Obama threw it.

[El Kabong]

I'm sure if you keep complaining about it something good will happen

You mean like you'll be walking down the street and get hit in the head with an obnoxious-eraser brick?

No I mean if you keep randomly bringing up your beef with Greenbeanz (especially in threads where he wasn't even posting) then you're just inviting him to start another flame war with you....which I'm guessing you enjoy the attention you get from these little verbal scuffles seeing how you're taking a dig at me here and in the following post as well....Good work, you're slowly learning to be a troll

[TitoFan]

I'm sure if you keep complaining about it something good will happen

You mean like you'll be walking down the street and get hit in the head with an obnoxious-eraser brick?

No I mean if you keep randomly bringing up your beef with Greenbeanz (especially in threads where he wasn't even posting) then you're just inviting him to start another flame war with you....which I'm guessing you enjoy the attention you get from these little verbal scuffles seeing how you're taking a dig at me here and in the following post as well....Good work, you're slowly learning to be a troll

Who started the condescending shit on this thread, asshole?
Take a good guess.

Need some help?
Look back through the thread.
You responded to a post of mine directed at someone else with your patented sarcasm.

But no-o-o-o-o-o-o-o......
You'd rather keep up your obnoxious shit and continue it, until someone slaps your ass down.

[greynotsoold]

We had an incident near here last week where a man returned to his home, in an area a bit off the path, and found a strange car in his drive and his front door kicked in. He took his pistol from his glovebox, went inside as was confronted by a guy with a pillowcase full of the homeowner's property. He shot the man dead. It turned out that that man had already broken into and robbed several other homes in that area.
What I couldn't believe was the response. Rather, the number of people saying that the homeowner had an 'obligation' not to enter his house- thereby provoking a confrontation- and that he should have locked himself in his vehicle and called the police. That got shouted down pretty quickly- this is Montana, after all- but I think we have let to many Californians move here.

[Beanz]

Trayvon Martin no longer has the luxury of being able to defend himself against the acusations that Zimmermans defence team are feeding the media. You have already made your mind up Lyle so why pretend otherwise?

[El Kabong]

Trayvon Martin no longer has the luxury of being able to defend himself against the acusations that Zimmermans defence team are feeding the media. You have already made your mind up Lyle so why pretend otherwise?

If it pleases the court I would like to present Lyle's Exhibit A of Media Bias



....your thoughts?

[Beanflicker]

We had an incident near here last week where a man returned to his home, in an area a bit off the path, and found a strange car in his drive and his front door kicked in. He took his pistol from his glovebox, went inside as was confronted by a guy with a pillowcase full of the homeowner's property. He shot the man dead. It turned out that that man had already broken into and robbed several other homes in that area.
What I couldn't believe was the response. Rather, the number of people saying that the homeowner had an 'obligation' not to enter his house- thereby provoking a confrontation- and that he should have locked himself in his vehicle and called the police. That got shouted down pretty quickly- this is Montana, after all- but I think we have let to many Californians move here.

Yeah that's a tough one. Legally I don't know, but a burglar will never get sympathy from me.

[Andre]

We had an incident near here last week where a man returned to his home, in an area a bit off the path, and found a strange car in his drive and his front door kicked in. He took his pistol from his glovebox, went inside as was confronted by a guy with a pillowcase full of the homeowner's property. He shot the man dead. It turned out that that man had already broken into and robbed several other homes in that area.
What I couldn't believe was the response. Rather, the number of people saying that the homeowner had an 'obligation' not to enter his house- thereby provoking a confrontation- and that he should have locked himself in his vehicle and called the police. That got shouted down pretty quickly- this is Montana, after all- but I think we have let to many Californians move here.

Yeah that's a tough one. Legally I don't know, but a burglar will never get sympathy from me.

Yeah, pieces today were washed ashore of what appears to be a suspected town burglar. Police have no leads to go on.

[El Kabong]

Who started the condescending shit on this thread, asshole?
Take a good guess.

Need some help?
Look back through the thread.
You responded to a post of mine directed at someone else with your patented sarcasm.

But no-o-o-o-o-o-o-o......
You'd rather keep up your obnoxious shit and continue it, until someone slaps your ass down.

I asked a simple question which you ignored....did you just now go back and get irritated about it? And the whole pushing thing....the fuck was that about "If someone pushes you can you shoot them?"....when I read posts like that I wonder if you have difficulty understanding when someone has an opportunity to remove themselves from a situation which could be dangerous. In the case of George Zimmerman, he apparently wasn't offered such a window to leave without firing a shot.





Doesn't look like it was just something as innocent and avoidable as a "push" to me. My main gripe is with the media coverage which has looked like this



To be honest I'm not affected either way guilty, not guilty whatever, but I'm also not going to parse out every single time when using a gun is justified especially to someone hell bent on gun control.

[TitoFan]

Ok, I'm just saying... where do you draw the line regarding "being in danger".

Without getting off topic, I'd be careful with that kind of legislation. What if someone cuts in front of you at a hardware store line? What if you think rightly or wrongly that someone looked a little too long at your girlfriend? What if you complain in either of those cases... and the other guy is armed? Will he feel threatened and in danger? It just opens a whole 'nother can of worms.

If Zimmerman truly shot Trayvon as result of a good old-fashioned scuffle.... a self-defense verdict is walking on some truly thin ice, IMO.

So you think Zimmerman just shot Trayvon because his feelings got hurt?

Was that necessary?

You're at a bar and some guy shoves you.
You're armed, and you feel threatened, so you shoot the guy dead.
How should that be legally handled?

There's always the opportunity to remove yourself from that situation UNLESS someone is sitting on top of you and pounding your head into the ground....then yes you can shoot him without repercussion because (and follow me closely on this part) YOUR LIFE WAS IN DANGER.

Zimmerman was getting the shit kicked out of him as one can tell by the broken nose and how the back of his head was fucked up.


But hey what do I know, I'm smart enough not to get in fights

You didn't get a rise out of me the first time, so if at first you don't succeed....










But bottom line: The case means little to me also. I was more shocked about the much less publicized case of the guy in Jacksonville who emptied his gun into a teenager-filled SUV at a gas station because they were playing loud music (and he wanted to play macho man in front of his girlfriend).

Although the following statement will go totally ignored by you, I've never made a big deal about Trayvon being black and Zimmerman not being black.

[El Kabong]

Was that necessary?

Maybe you hadn't seen how injured Zimmerman was, and if not then my bad, but the guy wasn't being tickled he was getting his ass thoroughly kicked as evidenced by the pictures. Now what caused the fight, how did the events play out, that MIGHT warrant a look at a manslaughter charge but if Zimmerman's story is to be believed and he was walking back to his car after getting the street sign name for the cops and was then attacked out of the blue by Trayvon then there is 0 case for murder or manslaughter it is a simple self defense case.

Although the following statement will go totally ignored by you, I've never made a big deal about Trayvon being black and Zimmerman not being black.

No, the media did and the MEDIA is what I have the issue with. Just like the Duke Lacrosse case, they're trying they're hardest to convict a guy before his case is heard in court. Just take a look at Al Sharpton's next show and tell me he's not trying to steer people into a certain frame of mind.

[Andre]

These two witnesses have a side to it regarding when the crying stopped.

Sad stuff to hear.

[Andre]

Then this .

I wonder why Zimmerman was around behind these houses.