Does anyone think George Zimmerman is guilty of murder?

[Fenster]

Blimey, I just read through the updates on this case, what a disgrace. Doctored phone calls? Fake video pictures? And we think the conspiracy brigade are nuts. Mental.

[El Kabong]

Blimey, I just read through the updates on this case, what a disgrace. Doctored phone calls? Fake video pictures? And we think the conspiracy brigade are nuts. Mental.

Oh yeah and the media also used pictures of Trayvon when he was like 7 instead of his most recent pictures

Here's the media's favorite Trayvon picture


And here's Trayvon on his Facebook account


And before I get jumped on (because I know I will) the latter picture doesn't make it OK for Trayvon to be shot or be targeted or anything else, but let's be honest ok he wasn't the angelic looking 7 year old. He was a teenager, already had some tats, liked wearing hoodies and baggy clothes and that suggests a certain culture among all races too not just blacks, but white people do that, Hispanics do that, and it suggests a certain culture and attitude.

[Beanz]

Blimey, I just read through the updates on this case, what a disgrace. Doctored phone calls? Fake video pictures? And we think the conspiracy brigade are nuts. Mental.

Oh yeah and the media also used pictures of Trayvon when he was like 7 instead of his most recent pictures

Here's the media's favorite Trayvon picture


And here's Trayvon on his Facebook account


And before I get jumped on (because I know I will) the latter picture doesn't make it OK for Trayvon to be shot or be targeted or anything else, but let's be honest ok he wasn't the angelic looking 7 year old. He was a teenager, already had some tats, liked wearing hoodies and baggy clothes and that suggests a certain culture among all races too not just blacks, but white people do that, Hispanics do that, and it suggests a certain culture and attitude.

You do realise that everything you post suggests way more about yourself and your own attitude than you can ever infer from a single photo of somebody you did not know ?

A certain culture and a certain attitude ? It's called being a teenager.

[Beanflicker]

You do realise that everything you post suggests way more about yourself and your own attitude than you can ever infer from a single photo of somebody you did not know ?

A certain culture and a certain attitude ? It's called being a teenager.

It's a completely valid point. The general public, thanks to the media showing the young pictures of him smiling and wide eyed, thinks that Zimmerman just went out and shot some glassy-eyed kid who posed absolutely no physical threat to him. You show people the most recent pics of a tall, athletic 17 year old with arm tattoos, scowling and flipping the bird to the camera, and you don't get the same emotion from the public.

[Beanflicker]

Some more stuff for those interested...

OFFICIAL medical report, which details his injuries (broken nose, black eyes, minor back injury, ect)

George Zimmerman Medical Report Sheds Light on Injuries After Trayvon Martin Shooting - ABC News


Zimmerman took and passed a lie detector test the night of the shooting

Zimmerman passed lie detector on night of Trayvon shooting

[El Kabong]

You do realise that everything you post suggests way more about yourself and your own attitude than you can ever infer from a single photo of somebody you did not know ?

A certain culture and a certain attitude ? It's called being a teenager.

People want to paint me with that brush but I know PLENTY of well dressed, good mannered teenagers....I know plenty that aren't and weren't and I know a lot of the people that had the thug attitude have been arrested or shot or are currently in jail....rightly or wrongly

When I was a teenager I was taught Perception is reality...that lesson kept me out of trouble, it got me jobs. People can say "Never judge a book by its cover" but there IS a hesitation in many people not just myself to give the benefit of the doubt to someone who carries themselves in a manner resembling a common thug....sorry that's just the way it is.

Did Trayvon deserve to get shot just for "looking like a thug" no, but I can understand why Zimmerman would be suspicious about a person walking around aimlessly, in the rain, at night, when there have been a series of break ins in that area....but hey that's just common damn sense. Nobody is happy about the shooting Beanz, nobody is saying "good riddance to Trayvon" it was an incident that didn't need to occur and its tragic, but nobody can undo it.

[Master]

Police officers wear hoodies, baggy clothes and have tats.

[El Kabong]

Police officers wear hoodies, baggy clothes and have tats.

I've not seen them dress like that

[El Kabong]

As for people giving me a hard time about judging people on the way they dress....

If you see someone in a kilt....chances are you think they're Scottish or have Scottish ancestors

If you see someone in Wrangler jeans.....chances are you think they are a redneck

If you see someone in Abercrombie & Fitch....chances are you think they are a spoiled preppy

If you see someone in Carhartt apparel.....chances are they work a blue collar manual labor job

If you see someone in a Burberry hat and a track suit....chances are you think they are a chav


Do you see where I'm going with this?

[Beanz]

As for people giving me a hard time about judging people on the way they dress....

If you see someone in a kilt....chances are you think they're Scottish or have Scottish ancestors

If you see someone in Wrangler jeans.....chances are you think they are a redneck

If you see someone in Abercrombie & Fitch....chances are you think they are a spoiled preppy

If you see someone in Carhartt apparel.....chances are they work a blue collar manual labor job

If you see someone in a Burberry hat and a track suit....chances are you think they are a chav


Do you see where I'm going with this?

Yes you are agreeing that you judge people on appearances and conveniently put them into boxes as though stereotypes are anyway of judging character. Its dumb Lyle.

The photo of Martin sticking his middle finger up is a snapshot in time. It doesn't mean he is a thug. It does not mean he has a propensity for violence. Wearing a hoody is wearing a hoody, middle aged men wear hoodies you are merely reflecting a prejudice for people not dressed like you.

[El Kabong]

Yes you are agreeing that you judge people on appearances and conveniently put them into boxes as though stereotypes are anyway of judging character. Its dumb Lyle.

The photo of Martin sticking his middle finger up is a snapshot in time. It doesn't mean he is a thug. It does not mean he has a propensity for violence. Wearing a hoody is wearing a hoody, middle aged men wear hoodies you are merely reflecting a prejudice for people not dressed like you.

Hey I wear hoodies too man...but then again I guess I don't have the tats and gold teeth to make me truly gangster

[Master]

Police officers wear hoodies, baggy clothes and have tats.

I've not seen them dress like that

Out of uniform, so do lawyers and doctors.

[El Kabong]

Police officers wear hoodies, baggy clothes and have tats.

I've not seen them dress like that

Out of uniform, so do lawyers and doctors.

Yeah...out of uniform I've not seen them dress like that